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SI Mailbag on Nick Saban (#1 coach in America)
Posted on 12/9/09 at 11:30 pm
Posted on 12/9/09 at 11:30 pm
Stewart, how surprised are you by the instant success Nick Saban has had at Alabama? Saban is certainly a great coach, but this is the first time he has ever won 10-plus games in consecutive seasons, and outside of the '03 title, his record at LSU was solid, but not spectacular. Did his NFL stint make him a better coach, or has the synergy of success-starved Alabama and no-nonsense Nick just been a match made in heaven?
-- Michael Stadler, Palo Alto, Calif.
I always figured he'd eventually reach this point, but I'm surprised it happened so quickly. It is, as you said, a match made in heaven. With all due respect to LSU, its football history prior to the start of this decade primarily consisted of Billy Cannon, Billy Cannon and Billy Cannon. What you consider his "solid but not spectacular" record (.750 winning percentage) was tied for the school's highest of any coach in 100 years, and he led a program that had been largely nationally irrelevant for 40 years to one national title and helped pave the way for another.
So clearly, the guy could coach and recruit with the best of them, and now you hand him the keys to one of the sport's all-time storied teams -- and, most importantly, give him complete autonomy over every last facet of the program -- and it seemed almost inevitable he'd get them to this point. I'll admit, I don't think I fully grasped his coaching persona while with LSU. Like so many others, I got caught up in his "angry" side perhaps jaded by his job-hopping. But listening to him talk throughout this season, there's no question in my mind: He's the Bill Belichick of college football.
There are plenty of great coaches out there, each with their own unique approach. Pete Carroll has won a lot of games being the "fun" guy, Urban Meyer the "competitive" guy, Jim Tressel the "fundamentals" guy. Saban, like Belichick, is the "cerebral" guy. As I listened to his postgame remarks following the Florida win, you could tell that he's literally broken down championship football -- not just the X's and O's, mind you, but all the other elements -- into an almost clinical process. If you were to sit him down right now, he could tell you in intricate detail, every minute step of how Alabama got from Point A (his arrival) to Point B (playing for a national title). Just be forewarned that it's not necessarily scintillating stuff. It would probably bore you to tears, actually.
I think that pretty much sums him up. The best coach in America lives in Tuscaloosa Alabama and he isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
-- Michael Stadler, Palo Alto, Calif.
I always figured he'd eventually reach this point, but I'm surprised it happened so quickly. It is, as you said, a match made in heaven. With all due respect to LSU, its football history prior to the start of this decade primarily consisted of Billy Cannon, Billy Cannon and Billy Cannon. What you consider his "solid but not spectacular" record (.750 winning percentage) was tied for the school's highest of any coach in 100 years, and he led a program that had been largely nationally irrelevant for 40 years to one national title and helped pave the way for another.
So clearly, the guy could coach and recruit with the best of them, and now you hand him the keys to one of the sport's all-time storied teams -- and, most importantly, give him complete autonomy over every last facet of the program -- and it seemed almost inevitable he'd get them to this point. I'll admit, I don't think I fully grasped his coaching persona while with LSU. Like so many others, I got caught up in his "angry" side perhaps jaded by his job-hopping. But listening to him talk throughout this season, there's no question in my mind: He's the Bill Belichick of college football.
There are plenty of great coaches out there, each with their own unique approach. Pete Carroll has won a lot of games being the "fun" guy, Urban Meyer the "competitive" guy, Jim Tressel the "fundamentals" guy. Saban, like Belichick, is the "cerebral" guy. As I listened to his postgame remarks following the Florida win, you could tell that he's literally broken down championship football -- not just the X's and O's, mind you, but all the other elements -- into an almost clinical process. If you were to sit him down right now, he could tell you in intricate detail, every minute step of how Alabama got from Point A (his arrival) to Point B (playing for a national title). Just be forewarned that it's not necessarily scintillating stuff. It would probably bore you to tears, actually.
I think that pretty much sums him up. The best coach in America lives in Tuscaloosa Alabama and he isn't going anywhere anytime soon.
Posted on 12/9/09 at 11:34 pm to ACL11190
As a die-hard LSU fan that is not very fond of Alabama's success, I have to say I agree with this 100%
Posted on 12/9/09 at 11:35 pm to BamaScoop
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With all due respect to LSU, its football history prior to the start of this decade primarily consisted of Billy Cannon, Billy Cannon and Billy Cannon
Posted on 12/10/09 at 12:42 am to Draconian Sanctions
I think he will probably build a legacy here that may surpass coach Bryant's with the new generation of BAMA fans.
Hell, Vince and Barbary Dooley come to the games and sit in his box. Bobby Bowden has said that since he is no longer the coach at FSU he wants to come back to Tuscaloosa and watch Alabama play.
We are the USC of the SEC. It is celebrity central once again in T-Town.
Hell, Vince and Barbary Dooley come to the games and sit in his box. Bobby Bowden has said that since he is no longer the coach at FSU he wants to come back to Tuscaloosa and watch Alabama play.
We are the USC of the SEC. It is celebrity central once again in T-Town.
This post was edited on 12/10/09 at 12:45 am
Posted on 12/10/09 at 12:45 am to BamaScoop
I'm not sure if that's possible today. In today's environment, Bryant would have been run off after 68-69-70.
This post was edited on 12/10/09 at 12:57 am
Posted on 12/10/09 at 12:51 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Bryant would have been run off after 68-69-79.
By 79 he had won 6 NC's at Alabama. An average of 1 every 4 years.
Saban has built a machine in Tuscaloosa and he is not finished. These players are still not all his guys.
It is hard to believe that javier was going to quit when he got here and he had to talk him into staying. To me Saban proves that it is all about the coaching and not about how many stars a recruit has. He has whatever it was that Bryant had that allows him to take ordinary players and turn them into champions.
I honestly believe that he is the best coach in college football today and I am not saying that because he is at Alabama, I actually believe that.
Posted on 12/10/09 at 12:57 am to Draconian Sanctions
68-69-70 is what I meant.
Posted on 12/10/09 at 1:17 am to Draconian Sanctions
You are right. It would be hard to imagine, but three consecutive 6-5 seasons, even after winning titles, would put a coach on a very hot seat today. There was mumbling back then, but thank goodness talk radio and the Internet were another three decades away, in those days. I just hope Alabama can learn from its lessons, of those time, and the last decade, if we're (Alabama fans) are lucky enough to have Coach Saban around for another ten years or so.
Posted on 12/10/09 at 3:27 am to CapstoneGrad06
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I think he will probably build a legacy here that may surpass coach Bryant's with the new generation of BAMA fans.
with those born after say... early to mid seventies, I would say he probably already has. Hearing the old timers talk about the bear is great and all but I want a coach that can bring that type of excitement to Bama. Stallings did a good job but you never had the feeling we were going to go on a run like it does with Saban.
Posted on 12/10/09 at 3:40 am to Alabama Slim
I think Saban is the best coach in the country. I doubt Bama wins a bunch of titles. There is too much good competition out there, unlike when The Bear was around. Like Rupp, Wooden and Bertman. Those days are over.
I do think they win this year, but then they lose coaches, players read their own press, Tenn learns how to kick a field goal whatever. Saban is great though.
I do think they win this year, but then they lose coaches, players read their own press, Tenn learns how to kick a field goal whatever. Saban is great though.
Posted on 12/10/09 at 4:10 am to BamaScoop
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It is celebrity central once again in T-Town.
Bowden and the Dooleys are fricking Snoop and Jessica Simpson now. WOW.
Posted on 12/10/09 at 4:52 am to BamaScoop
Realisticly you have to agree with the SI article. Saban is a once-in-lifetime coach.
I agree to up coming future generation of Bama fans he will be the one most remembered. Thanks Scoop for posting this...
I agree to up coming future generation of Bama fans he will be the one most remembered. Thanks Scoop for posting this...
Posted on 12/10/09 at 8:16 am to RlTde2
Every team who wins a NC feels like they are now the new dominate program for years to come. Opps, Bama has it won it yet. Hope Texas doesn't pull the rug out from all the Bama hysteria.
Posted on 12/10/09 at 8:23 am to TenTex
As long as this post sticks to Saban being the #1 coach in America right now, I will have to agree. Lets not be silly and start using best of all time and garbage like that.
Posted on 12/10/09 at 8:28 am to BamaScoop
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It is celebrity central once again in T-Town.
no....just no
Posted on 12/10/09 at 8:49 am to St Augustine
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We are the USC of the SEC. It is celebrity central once again in T-Town.
FAIL
Posted on 12/10/09 at 9:00 am to BamaScoop
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We are the USC of the SEC. It is celebrity central once again in T-Town.
I'm pulling for Bama in the championship but quotes like this really makes living among and conversing with some of you guys unbearable. Bama is on a roll right now, but in recent years, you guys have won 1 SEC championship and no nat'l championships. You are nowhere near USC, a team which has won 7 or 8 straight conference championships and 1 (or 2 depending how you look at it) nat'l championships.
Posted on 12/10/09 at 9:08 am to BamaTiger00
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I'm pulling for Bama in the championship but quotes like this really makes living among and conversing with some of you guys unbearable.
Dude, I agree with you 100%. Nobody hates these types of Bama fans as much as I do.
Of course, every fanbase has its share of retards though, I'm just willing to call out my own....
Posted on 12/10/09 at 9:12 am to DvlsAdvocat
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Dude, I agree with you 100%. Nobody hates these types of Bama fans as much as I do.
and with all due respect to scoop, he's one of the better, humble posters around here. Probably just got caught up in the hype.
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