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The NCAA's latest statements just encourage

Posted on 10/14/09 at 7:09 am
Posted by Schwaaz
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 10/14/09 at 7:09 am
schools not to self report. If you self report then you are going to rack up the violations. If you just keep quiet and even fight the process then your violations will be cut down to just a few that they can absolutely prove. Bama has bent over backwards to self report and all it's gotten them are more violations that the NCAA can use against them in the future. The NCAA speaks out of both sides of it's mouth when it says if you self report the sanctions will be less.

ALL schools have violations and boosters who break the rules so it's not just Bama cheating. I personally know AU and other school's players who's families received money in brown paper bags.

USC and Ohio State have the right idea. Never self report and stall the investigations until the NCAA just gives up.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
34949 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 7:15 am to
I have an idea. Why not better "self-police" yourself rather than getting into a position of having to "self-report"? Pretty simple stuff to me but then I have always tried to follow the rules are work to change them.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
29215 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 7:17 am to
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Our team screwed up. You don't get off the hook just because you told on yourself.
Posted by PBnJ
in your lunchbox
Member since Aug 2009
2654 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 7:20 am to
quote:

The NCAA's latest statements just encourage
schools not to self report.


link?
Posted by AUriptide
Member since Aug 2009
7446 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 7:20 am to
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I personally know AU and other school's players who's families received money in brown paper bags.


Care to give out any names since you "personally" know them?
Posted by Schwaaz
Member since Sep 2009
7375 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 7:23 am to
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Care to give out any names since you "personally" know them?


^^^^^^^^^^Idiot alert ^^^^^^^^^^^
Posted by AUriptide
Member since Aug 2009
7446 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 7:24 am to
We were altered when you started this stupid thread cyring like a bitch.
Posted by Schwaaz
Member since Sep 2009
7375 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 7:26 am to
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Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Our team screwed up. You don't get off the hook just because you told on yourself.


Sit back and think about that. If the penalties are the same then why would you EVER turn yourself in? To encourage self reporting and not using your self reporting against you then you have to give benefit to do that.
Posted by AUriptide
Member since Aug 2009
7446 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 7:27 am to
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^^^^^^^^^^Idiot alert ^^^^^^^^^^^


Back up the big talk.....Big guy.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
29215 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 7:32 am to
You self report incidents because it let's them know you're, as a program, on the altruistic approach... Let's them know you don't take cheating lightly, and have a zero tollarance policy.

If they think of you as a team that sweeps things under the rug, then they'll slam you when you do something particularly bad. This last situation wasn't at the coaches' hands but by players.

Comply comply comply. Alabama has no slack on the rope left. Walk the freaking line. You do it for your team's sake. Their punishment sucked, but it could have been worse.

We don't have to like the way they "judge" but we BETTER accept it.
Posted by arrakis
Member since Nov 2008
21168 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 7:56 am to
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Sit back and think about that.

Sit back and think about this.....your ethics suck
Posted by volmeister
Knoxville TN
Member since Apr 2008
32 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 8:16 am to
Yeah, covering it up worked out real well for you in the Antonio Langham case.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 8:18 am to
Here's an idea--why don't you stop pushing the envelope and then shut up about it when you get caught ?
Posted by Schwaaz
Member since Sep 2009
7375 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 8:41 am to
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Back up the big talk.....Big guy


Why in the world would I tell you anything specific? Do you really think I'm going to name names of people I know on a message board? You can't be this dumb.

Believe it or not, makes no difference to me.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
29215 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 8:41 am to
Hey I-59, since you're in here, are my posts objective enough for u here?
Posted by Schwaaz
Member since Sep 2009
7375 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 8:43 am to
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Yeah, covering it up worked out real well for you in the Antonio Langham case.


That just proves my point. We would have recieved the same penalty if we self reported so why tell on yourself?
Posted by Schwaaz
Member since Sep 2009
7375 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 8:45 am to
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Sit back and think about this.....your ethics suck


How many times have you turned yourself in for going over the speed limit or running a red light or stop sign? Hypocrite?
Posted by arrakis
Member since Nov 2008
21168 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 8:45 am to
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Do you really think I'm going to name names of people I know on a message board?

Did you report the facts and names to the NCAA?
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
34949 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 8:49 am to
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How many times have you turned yourself in for going over the speed limit or running a red light or stop sign?
But if you did, would you really expect to go without being ticketed and fined? You say to the judge; "judge, I turned myself in so can you disregard the 20 other speeding tickets I have?" Yea - I could see that going over well (sarcasm)
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
29215 posts
Posted on 10/14/09 at 8:50 am to
speeding ticket analogy isn't a complete analogy... so it's not good.
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