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Ranking SEC Recruiting Staffs

Posted on 5/23/09 at 5:43 pm
Posted by volwarrior33
Knoxville
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Posted on 5/23/09 at 5:43 pm
If you had to rank the SEC Staffs in terms of their recruiting success/ability, how would you do it? Here would be mine.

1. Alabama, This staff has signed two Rivals.com Number 1 classes in two full recruiting years, hard to argue with results.

2. Florida, Signed the nation's number one class in 2007 by Rivals and Scout. The staff also signed two Top 3 classes in '06 and '08. They had a decent class in 2009 (ranked number 11 by Rivals.com and number 21 by Scout.com), and they're off to a great start in 2010.

3. LSU, Signed the nation's number 1 class by ESPN in 2009. The staff has done a great job in its time in Baton Rouge. The staff also had Top 10 classes in 2006 and 2007. In any other conference, they would be at the top of the class. This just shows the depth of the SEC.

4. Georgia, In the last 8 years has never had a class ranked worse than 10th nationally. The staff has only two Top 5 classes (including a No. 3 class in 2002) but is the model of consistency.

5. Tennessee, Signed the nation's number 1 player, 5* RB Bryce Brown, in their only class. They added to the class with 5* DB Janzen Jackson and 4* RB David Oku. Their inaugural class was ranked number 8 by Scout.com and number 10 by Rivals.com. In only one year, its tough to judge how the staff will mesh but they're off to a decent start in 2010.

6. Auburn, Hired a very solid staff in 2009, and it showed in their only recruiting class. Ranked number 16 in by Scout and 19 by Rivals they got a solid RB in 4* Onterio McCalebb. They also reeled in a 4* QB commitment in Tyrik Rollison. This staff showed they were up to the challenge of SEC recruiting by signing a solid class in a short time period.

7. South Carolina, has shown a little inconsistency during their stint in Columbia. They signed the nation's number 6 class in 2007, but before and since then they've struggled to crack the Top 20. They did sign a Top 12 class in 2009 but they haven't signed any other premier classes. Again, a very solid staff who would be near the top of most conferences but due to the depth of the SEC, they are in the bottom half.

8. Mississippi State, tough to judge with less than a full year on the job, but it was a good first recruiting class for Dan Mullen and staff. Scout.com ranked the class Number 19 nationally and they cracked the Top 25 in Rivals' rankings. Add that to the fact that Mullen learned from recruiting guru Urban Meyer and the future looks bright for Bulldog fans.

9. Arkansas, A decent year in Bobby Petrino's first full year as Razorbacks' head coach, ranking 16th nationally by Rivals and 20th nationally by Scout. This came on the heels of a disappointing first class by Petrino and staff. Nothing outstanding about Arkansas' first two classes, but they've done a solid job.

10. Ole Miss, Signed 37 prospects in Houston Nutt's first full class. Quanity is not always the answer though. The average star of those 37 players was 3.11. Though they did get some gems in the class (5* Bobby Massie, 4* Patrick Patterson) the amount of players they signed seems like it will take some quality away from the roster. Obviously all the players won't qualify but the sheer numbers would alarm me as a Rebel fan. Plus, in the previous season Nutt's class wasn't exactly spectacular (ranked 29th nationally by Rivals). Again Nutt is a decent recruiter but his first two years haven't met the standards of other SEC coaches.

11. Kentucky, They have done a decent job in Rich Brooks' tenure at Kentucky considering the lack of facilities and winning in Lexington. They even came close to signing a Top 25 class this season (27th by Scout). Still, nowhere near the other programs in the SEC, recruiting wise.

12. Vanderbilt, have never cracked the Top 50 nationally in Recruiting. However, Bobby Johnson has a tough job picking recruits who feels can meet the lofty academic requirements to get into the Nashville Private school and are still SEC level players. However, they do sometimes find a diamond in the rough, like Jay Cutler.

Edit: After thinking looking at average stars I decided to take the advice of posters. Georgia bumped behind Florida and LSU. Plus, Georgia has never had a number 1 class, something Florida and LSU have done.
This post was edited on 5/23/09 at 6:02 pm
Posted by superman
Member since Mar 2008
8079 posts
Posted on 5/23/09 at 5:45 pm to
Pretty good list, except I would put Florida and LSU in front of Georgia. Florida is easily #2, IMO. According to Rivals, their average star rating has been no lower than 3.82 over the last 4 years. That can only be matched by USC.

ETA: Also, Florida signed only 16 players in 2009 - but according to rivals they had a 3.94 star rating... which was highest in the country.
This post was edited on 5/23/09 at 5:50 pm
Posted by RGCjr01
Brookhaven / Jackson, Mississippi
Member since Dec 2008
4865 posts
Posted on 5/23/09 at 5:46 pm to
Yours is pretty good.
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36516 posts
Posted on 5/23/09 at 7:06 pm to
8 straight top 10 years and they are 4th in the conference
Posted by BT4LSU
Could be Anywhere, at Anytime
Member since Feb 2005
3278 posts
Posted on 5/23/09 at 7:12 pm to
Vol, you state this:

quote:

Alabama, This staff has signed two Rivals.com Number 1 classes in two full recruiting years, hard to argue with results.


Then follow it with this:

Ole Miss, Signed 37 prospects in Houston Nutt's first full class. Quanity is not always the answer though. The average star of those 37 players was 3.11.

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Here's why no one cares about the overrated
Bama recruiting. First they win the titles with basically smoke and mirrors. Saban intentionally
oversigns, something Miles and Meyer don't have to do, and in the process their real averages, the average of there exact needs, are usually higher.

For example the 2009 Rival averages:

Florida 16 players, 3.94 ranking
Bama 27 players 3.81 ranking
LSU 24 players 3.79 ranking

If you judge by last year, based on what
you're saying, UF has the best quality.

Furthermore, LSU got every important player (sans Jackson) they needed and many recruiting gurus think think LSU, not Bama had the better class.


Let's go a little further Now the 2008 rankingsand that other Bama #1 class:

Florida 22 players 3.82
Bama 32 players 3.72
LSU 26 players 3.58

We already know that 1/3 of Bama's so called recruiting class is already gone. LSU lost 4 of their players. Florida lost two. Florida easily had the better class.

And the 2007 rankings

Florida 27 players, 3.89
Bama 25 players 3.28
LSU 26 players 3.88

Anyway, the point is obvious. Note that LSU and
Florida never oversign.

Bama always does.


Florida hands down, has the better recruiting over based on your own words.


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So what about the Saban factor?

And since we all want to zero in on how supposedly great Saban is, note the following:

Since he has been there, Saban has recruited 84 Bama players--- total average 3.63

Meyer and Florida since Saban showed? In UF's case, try 65 players and a 3.88 average.

Much Higher than Saban.
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Miles and LSU since Saban showed up? In LSU's case, try 76 players and a average of 3.753 In fact, LSU's three (3) year average of 3.753 is almost identical to Bama's two #1 classes 3.765.

We're talking .0012 of a difference. Not enough to even make a single t-shirt.

It may be noted that Rivals averages of Bama
have been consistantly higher than any other recruiting group (name it, Scout, ESPN, Ludengill, Emsfinger, whoever/whatever) yet Bama is barely even with LSU and easily trails UF in every imaginable way over the last 2 and three year periods.

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[b]Like you stated, it's quality.

If so, then both Miles and Meyer are better than Saban.



Florida has way more, and LSU has virtually as much over the last two years, and LSU has more over Miles' tenure since Saban showed up in Gumpland.


Based on the same, Bama drops to #3.

1) Florida
2) LSU
3) Bama


And no amount of Rival bama arse kissing can change that.


This post was edited on 5/23/09 at 7:18 pm
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68467 posts
Posted on 5/23/09 at 7:12 pm to
Not trying to be a homer, but Miles has not finished out of the top 5 by most "experts" every year

(oh yeah, he wins as well)
Posted by LuckyLee
inside vaginas
Member since Jul 2008
9145 posts
Posted on 5/23/09 at 11:43 pm to
This is up there with the rank the best SEC marching bands.
Posted by lsubeer
Denver
Member since Sep 2008
1233 posts
Posted on 5/24/09 at 1:01 am to
Recruiting=Championships
LSU and UF have 2 NC's most recently so everone else GTFO and don't come back until you have at least 1!
Posted by inelishaitrust
Oxford, MS
Member since Jan 2008
26079 posts
Posted on 5/24/09 at 1:10 am to
quote:

10. Ole Miss, Signed 37 prospects in Houston Nutt's first full class. Quanity is not always the answer though. The average star of those 37 players was 3.11. Though they did get some gems in the class (5* Bobby Massie, 4* Patrick Patterson) the amount of players they signed seems like it will take some quality away from the roster.


Why would that be so?
If the the top 25 recruits make it to campus the quality is increased. The average star ranking is better.
You'll have to see who qualifies first.
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