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Glenn Schumann is the worst DC of Kirbys tenure,
Posted on 9/27/25 at 11:01 pm
Posted on 9/27/25 at 11:01 pm
It's like we only had one gear tonight. No wonder he hasn't gotten a chance job. Hopefully we can bring Mel Fisher back.
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Posted on 9/27/25 at 11:05 pm to lewis and herschel
Something is up with the D as well.
With Kirby layered on top of it we should be elite
Bobo problems are explainable, he’s just not that good consistently
With Kirby layered on top of it we should be elite
Bobo problems are explainable, he’s just not that good consistently
Posted on 9/27/25 at 11:07 pm to Dawg4Life47
Bobo is a college OC an NFL OC with playoff experience would know how to call a game like tonight's.
Posted on 9/27/25 at 11:07 pm to Dawg4Life47
Not sure how to respond to that. But wow.????
Defense made awesome adjustments at halftime time.
Defense made awesome adjustments at halftime time.
Posted on 9/27/25 at 11:09 pm to Maryvilledawg
Gave up 400 yards at home not that hard to understand
Posted on 9/28/25 at 12:15 pm to Maryvilledawg
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Defense made awesome adjustments at halftime time.
Glen Schumann doesn't seem to be able to make those adjustments until hes given up 14-21 points though. I am not enough of a football expert to understand how he does it, but it was a pattern present for most of the 2024 season that makes the games heart attack central.
I'd like to get back to smoking dudes 34-0. We did that in 2018 & 2019, not just the natty years.
This post was edited on 9/28/25 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 9/28/25 at 12:32 pm to Bigdawgb
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Glen Schumann doesn't seem to be able to make those adjustments until hes given up 14-21 points though. I am not enough of a football expert to understand how he does it, but it was a pattern present for most of the 2024 season that makes the games heart attack central. I'd like to get back to smoking dudes 34-0. We did that in 2018 & 2019, not just the natty years.
There we go. I like it. We just fire coaches and coordinators until we start smoking teams like Bama, Texas, Ole Miss, Florida, Tennessee, Auburn, Texas, etc. This should be a lot of fun running through a who's who of college football every year like a knife through hot butter. I'm amazed nobody thought of it before now. While we're at it, we should buy the top 3 or 4 players at every position in every recruiting class.
This post was edited on 9/28/25 at 12:36 pm
Posted on 9/28/25 at 12:39 pm to wdhalgren
You’re fricking retarded
Posted on 9/28/25 at 12:40 pm to wdhalgren
Lanning, Tucker, Champ all on a different level than Ginger...
Defense is what we do ...
Defense is what we do ...
Posted on 9/28/25 at 12:50 pm to wdhalgren
Thanks 
Now get out of here
Remember, the whole reason Kirby is our coach is because the AD had the balls to fire a great but not elite coach 10 years ago.
The reason I bring up 2018 & 2019 is because people always say "we just dont have the Dline, don't have the dudes we did in 2021-2022." Honestly, we probably won't ever have that concentrated level of D line talent, nor do we need it, because we still put out significantly better defenses because of the "dudes" on staff
Now get out of here
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whstrawman
Remember, the whole reason Kirby is our coach is because the AD had the balls to fire a great but not elite coach 10 years ago.
The reason I bring up 2018 & 2019 is because people always say "we just dont have the Dline, don't have the dudes we did in 2021-2022." Honestly, we probably won't ever have that concentrated level of D line talent, nor do we need it, because we still put out significantly better defenses because of the "dudes" on staff
This post was edited on 9/28/25 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 9/28/25 at 1:04 pm to Bigdawgb
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whstrawman
Which part of what I said was a strawman? You just threw Schumann onto the discard pile where he joins Bobo, Searels and Coley according to the consensus of this board. And then you want Kirby to build a cracker jack staff from scratch and start "smoking teams" again.
I'll give you a hint for your future sanity as a football fan. We're not going back to the days of domination. If we win a NC it will be by somehow getting through an incredibly tough slog of 8-9 games against top 20 talent and coaching, and still having enough healthy players left to win one more against the other best team in the country. Hard fought games like last night will be the rule for well over half the season, not the exception.
This post was edited on 9/28/25 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 9/28/25 at 1:04 pm to lewis and herschel
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Mel Fisher
Tucker you big dummy...
Posted on 9/28/25 at 2:04 pm to wdhalgren
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Which part of what I said was a strawman?
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There we go. I like it. We just fire coaches and coordinators until we start smoking teams like Bama, Texas, Ole Miss, Florida, Tennessee, Auburn, Texas, etc. This should be a lot of fun running through a who's who of college football every year like a knife through hot butter. I'm amazed nobody thought of it before now. While we're at it, we should buy the top 3 or 4 players at every position in every recruiting class.
You're right, I missed all that nuance & well-reasoned perspective the 1st time
Notice in my own comment, I said we don't need 2021 levels of talent.
You're pretty much making my point though, NIL prevents teams from building an overwhelming talent advantage. And if we need an overwhelming talent advantage to have a great D, that points to a coaching issue. We didn't need an overwhelming talent advantage in 2017 to beat teams 40-0..
I'm not saying Schumann is a loser and I'm certainly not dissing Kirby. I'm saying the overall defensive coaching talent has tailed off compared to when we had Mel Tucker, Lanning, Fran, Muschamp AND Kirby AND Schumann. And that it gets old hearing "we ain't got the dudes" when we finish top 3 recruiting & put out 10 draft picks annually
This post was edited on 9/28/25 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 9/28/25 at 2:47 pm to Bigdawgb
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And if we need an overwhelming talent advantage to have a great D, that points to a coaching issue. We didn't need an overwhelming talent advantage in 2017 to beat teams 40-0..
I'm not saying Schumann is a loser and I'm certainly not dissing Kirby. I'm saying the overall defensive coaching talent has tailed off compared to when we had Mel Tucker, Lanning, Fran, Muschamp
In 2017 we gave up an average of 24 ppg against 6 ranked opponents (4 top 10 opp.). In 2024 we gave up an average of 21 ppg against 7 ranked opponents (4 top 10 opp).
In 2017 we gave up an average of 366 ypg against 6 ranked opponents. In 2024 we gave up an average of 334 ypg against 7 ranked opponents.
There is one major difference between then and now and it's not coaching. Georgia runs a complicated defense and we're starting every season with a large deficit in experience. The combination of transfer portal and early draft departures are draining experience and talent from the roster every offseason. We're also no longer able to tackle in practice like we did back then. Our defense is learning fundamentals and scheme on the fly.
This post was edited on 9/28/25 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 9/28/25 at 3:14 pm to wdhalgren
And what do you think that attributes too coaching no?
Third retarded post on this board your on a roll fricktard!
Third retarded post on this board your on a roll fricktard!
Posted on 9/28/25 at 3:35 pm to Sleazy_PugLeazy
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And what do you think that attributes too coaching no?
Third retarded post on this board your on a roll fricktard!
Sorry, I don't speak whatever language that may be.
This post was edited on 9/28/25 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 9/28/25 at 4:29 pm to wdhalgren
It’s not autism or self righteousness with a sprinkle of retardation so I would expect you not too
Posted on 9/28/25 at 5:28 pm to wdhalgren
So, a few counterpoints:
#1. Rule changes have caused games to be significantly reduced in plays, length, and possessions since 2017. Giving up 21 ppg today vs. 24 ppg has to be taken in context of that. There's also other side of NIL - weaker OL, less developed QBs, less complex offenses to defend against. If we're putting up similar stats against inferior competition, that means we've also gotten worse. And I think the eye test backs that statement
#2. 2017 was won very differently than 2024. We weren't falling behind in every 1st half. We had enormous blowout wins all season. Other than the Clemson game, the Texas game (credit the D for overcoming Beck's 3 picks) and maybe then Tenn. game, we looked sloppy & dysfunctional for most of 2024 but seemed to pull it out of our arse in the 4th quarter.
#3. Imo - the roster was less talented, but the coaches were more talented. Kirby was just getting the recruiting train rolling, but he already had his group of hand picked dudes from Bama. That is hard to replace obviously, but you have to admit those guys were getting the absolute most out of the talent they had to work with.
They put up the #1 defense in 2019 despite a barely functional offense going 3 & out constantly.
#4. Your point
Is 100% coaching. If what worked in the past doesn't work now, you have to adapt. If your defense is so complex that it needs 3 years on the bench to run effectively then it's probably not the best defense to run anymore. NIL doesn't seem to be going anywhere, so we can't hope the old model will magically work again. And they're trying to adapt of course - it's very obvious that standing pat won't cut it.
I'm not saying our coaches are bad. I'm saying we don't have that edge we had & it's not coming back through NIL. So we have to move to the next option - better coaching, better development, better adaptation to the modern game. It's that or eat Ohio State's dust every year.
And with that dissertation I've probably reached my quota for the rest of the season
#1. Rule changes have caused games to be significantly reduced in plays, length, and possessions since 2017. Giving up 21 ppg today vs. 24 ppg has to be taken in context of that. There's also other side of NIL - weaker OL, less developed QBs, less complex offenses to defend against. If we're putting up similar stats against inferior competition, that means we've also gotten worse. And I think the eye test backs that statement
#2. 2017 was won very differently than 2024. We weren't falling behind in every 1st half. We had enormous blowout wins all season. Other than the Clemson game, the Texas game (credit the D for overcoming Beck's 3 picks) and maybe then Tenn. game, we looked sloppy & dysfunctional for most of 2024 but seemed to pull it out of our arse in the 4th quarter.
#3. Imo - the roster was less talented, but the coaches were more talented. Kirby was just getting the recruiting train rolling, but he already had his group of hand picked dudes from Bama. That is hard to replace obviously, but you have to admit those guys were getting the absolute most out of the talent they had to work with.
They put up the #1 defense in 2019 despite a barely functional offense going 3 & out constantly.
#4. Your point
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Georgia runs a complicated defense and we're starting every season with a large deficit in experience. The combination of transfer portal and early draft departures are draining experience and talent from the roster every offseason. We're also no longer able to tackle in practice like we did back then. Our defense is learning fundamentals and scheme on the fly.
Is 100% coaching. If what worked in the past doesn't work now, you have to adapt. If your defense is so complex that it needs 3 years on the bench to run effectively then it's probably not the best defense to run anymore. NIL doesn't seem to be going anywhere, so we can't hope the old model will magically work again. And they're trying to adapt of course - it's very obvious that standing pat won't cut it.
I'm not saying our coaches are bad. I'm saying we don't have that edge we had & it's not coming back through NIL. So we have to move to the next option - better coaching, better development, better adaptation to the modern game. It's that or eat Ohio State's dust every year.
And with that dissertation I've probably reached my quota for the rest of the season
This post was edited on 9/28/25 at 5:39 pm
Posted on 9/29/25 at 5:55 am to wdhalgren
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Georgia runs a complicated defense and we're starting every season with a large deficit in experience. The combination of transfer portal and early draft departures are draining experience and talent from the roster every offseason. We're also no longer able to tackle in practice like we did back then. Our defense is learning fundamentals and scheme on the fly.
This feels like something worthy of self-reflection as a program.
Posted on 9/29/25 at 6:15 am to lewis and herschel
In fairness, is there a single player on defense that would start for either the 2021 or 2022 defense?
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