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Posted on 9/1/25 at 8:53 am
Posted on 9/1/25 at 8:53 am
3 tackles for loss, 1 sack.
They ran 63 plays.
1st half - zero negative yardage plays
3rd quarter - zero negative yardage plays
It wasn’t until their first drive we had a tackle for loss. Had 1 and a sack on that possession. The rest? Their last drive which was 9 consecutive runs that killed the last 6 minutes.
Part of it is the scheme where our down linemen are easily double teamed giving them at least 2-3 yards before any contact. The rest I think is just being weak. I saw guys all day going backwards.
I sure hope someone can tell me that can get fixed. Because I don’t see how unless we change scheme which I think is baked in already.
They ran 63 plays.
1st half - zero negative yardage plays
3rd quarter - zero negative yardage plays
It wasn’t until their first drive we had a tackle for loss. Had 1 and a sack on that possession. The rest? Their last drive which was 9 consecutive runs that killed the last 6 minutes.
Part of it is the scheme where our down linemen are easily double teamed giving them at least 2-3 yards before any contact. The rest I think is just being weak. I saw guys all day going backwards.
I sure hope someone can tell me that can get fixed. Because I don’t see how unless we change scheme which I think is baked in already.
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Posted on 9/1/25 at 8:53 am to llfshoals
Not having Keenan hurt. That’s a major loss. Hopefully he can return at some point this season and make a difference.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 8:55 am to bamatide07
It’s hard for me to believe that just having Tim out killed the entire defense. Have we really whiffed that bad on the defensive line recruits?
Posted on 9/1/25 at 8:59 am to CrimsonBoz
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Have we really whiffed that bad on the defensive line recruits?
No. We just have a terrible d-line coach in Freddie.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 9:02 am to CrimsonBoz
quote:Me too. Which suggests coaching (try and hold your ground then scrape off) or they’re weak which is S&C.
It’s hard for me to believe that just having Tim out killed the entire defense.
I didn’t see attack out of the defense at all till I quit watching in disgust
Posted on 9/1/25 at 9:07 am to CrimsonBoz
If you’re going to run that style of defense, you have to attack: blitzes, stunts, whatever to get in the backfield and disrupt the play. If you sit back and play read and react with 5 or maybe 6 players in the box versus 7 on the offense, you’re going to get your arse handed to you every time. They have enough blockers to negate all the DL with a couple left over for the play side LB’s. That’s why we have DB’s making the tackle 7 yards down the field on running plays. The offense has a numbers advantage to either run over or outflank your defense. Lack of execution like not setting an edge magnifies the problem. And it’s ridiculous to think 3 or 4 pass rushers are going to beat 5 OL very often on pass plays.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 9:11 am to phil4bama
I noticed how often we didn’t set the edge especially 41. He got smoked so many times off the edge.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 9:12 am to CrimsonBoz
The Dline sucks. It's amazingly bad
This post was edited on 9/1/25 at 9:13 am
Posted on 9/1/25 at 9:19 am to llfshoals
I'm not sure we have a Quinnen Williams out there or anything, but it's hard to say how much of what we're seeing from them is a talent vs. coaching issue. When I focused on them, I saw A LOT of biting on any sort of motion or misdirection. Just pure confusion. That comes down to not having been coached up and given a sense of what they needed to be aware of, and it also makes it hard to assess their individual skillsets.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 9:30 am to CrimsonBoz
I think that's a big part of the problem. Look at the 2 we have signed this class destined for the inside. Both are around 260lbs. I'm sure they'll put on some weight but compared to what other programs are bringing on board for the interior that's small. I also think Womack's whole scheme is odd on the front line. It's like it's 1 big body on the nose and then 2-3 tweeners that aren't either quick enough or powerful enough to disrupt the offense.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 9:37 am to phil4bama
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If you’re going to run that style of defense, you have to attack: blitzes, stunts, whatever to get in the backfield and disrupt the play. If you sit back and play read and react with 5 or maybe 6 players in the box versus 7 on the offense, you’re going to get your arse handed to you
I really do believe this…I’m not a fan of this defensive scheme, but if you’re going to run it you have to be attacking downhill. That’s the only time this defense looked really good last year. We played on our heals all game Saturday.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 9:47 am to Chris ALL Capps
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I think that's a big part of the problem. Look at the 2 we have signed this class destined for the inside. Both are around 260lbs. I'm sure they'll put on some weight but compared to what other programs are bringing on board for the interior that's small.
Went back and watched the replay and was kinda shocking to see how fsu was manhandling our d line. We passed on some bigger d linemen this recruiting cycle that seemed to be pretty disruptive at camps. That’s concerning.
Posted on 9/1/25 at 9:48 am to MrPigskin
The problem with this scheme is that Wommack wants to create turnovers and negative plays in passing downs but he cannot get teams into obvious passing situations because his personnel and front alignment just begs to be ran on constantly.
We can’t get teams into throwing situations enough to create turnovers anymore. LSU is the last real opponent we’ve played that tried to throw most downs against us. At this juncture, we’re only likely to flourish on defense if the opponent cannot run the ball. How often is that going to happen in 2025?
We can’t get teams into throwing situations enough to create turnovers anymore. LSU is the last real opponent we’ve played that tried to throw most downs against us. At this juncture, we’re only likely to flourish on defense if the opponent cannot run the ball. How often is that going to happen in 2025?
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