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Question for Peter Buck and Xs and Os people

Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:33 pm
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
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Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:33 pm
In Brooks Austin's new Gunner Stocton film breakdown, he said that Bobo never installed outside zone run and we didn't run it at all last season. Said that Ole Miss was the first to fully realize it and ran a bunch of inside stunts, and after that every team we played did the same and our only answer was an endaround.

If this is true, it seems pretty egregious.
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 8/5/25 at 8:48 pm to
Can you link the new Brooks vid? I recall he did one a couple weeks ago about Gunner, did he do a fresh one?
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
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Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:13 pm to
Brooks already is great and he has so much more potential, if can eliminate his inner "urban" teenager.

Fast forward to 42 minutes. It's awe inspiring football 101

Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:53 pm to
Yeah that's the one from a month ago that I posted here already in the OP of "The Gunner Stockton Thread".
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 8/5/25 at 9:55 pm to
"New" video from VHS-

LINK
Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 1:34 am to
Texas, Auburn and KY I know ETN had outside the tackle runs.
Posted by retooc
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 7:37 am to
THEY WONT LET GO

Posted by SemperFiDawg
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 9:37 am to
quote:

Bobo never installed outside zone run and we didn't run it at all last season


Imagine that. Bobo is sooooo creative though.
Posted by Bradb5291
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 9:42 am to
The film doesn’t lie, I doubt he would say that if there wasn’t video evidence to prove it!
Posted by Peter Buck
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 10:13 am to
Did he say Bobo didn’t install it or did he say defenses will have to respect the QB taking the read, which results in the DE and LB not being able to pinch on the cutback lanes?
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 12:00 pm to
quote:


The film doesn’t lie, I doubt he would say that if there wasn’t video evidence to prove it!


Are you going to take VHS's word for it, and assume Brooks actually did say that? Even if you start the vid right where VHS says to start it, and watch to end, he never says anything about it.
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

Did he say Bobo didn’t install it or did he say defenses will have to respect the QB taking the read, which results in the DE and LB not being able to pinch on the cutback lanes?


I think he was getting at designed outsize zone runs. Not RPOs.
Posted by Bradb5291
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 12:28 pm to
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Are you going to take VHS's word for it, and assume Brooks actually did say that? Even if you start the vid right where VHS says to start it, and watch to end, he never says anything about it.


I plan on watching the video when I get off work. If Brooks did happen to say that I don’t believe he would have just made that up?!?
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 6:19 pm to
quote:

I plan on watching the video when I get off work. If Brooks did happen to say that I don’t believe he would have just made that up?!?


Sounds like you have your mind made up even after admitting you didn't watch the video and acknowledging that Brooks might not have even said what VHS said he said.
Posted by SquatchDawg
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 6:27 pm to
Both of you need to review the video with a keen ear and report back. If VHS is making fraudulent claims we need to know about it.
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 6:33 pm to
I already watched the full video before I posted it a month ago in the OP of The Gunner Stockton Thread. I don't recall him talking about outside zone not being installed, or anything really about it. The video focuses on Stockton highlights from the ND game. There is a small chance that VHS is telling the truth, but I don't remember it from the video I watched a month ago, and rewatched the part he called out in this OP, there was nothing about it, and he is a known liar and bullshitter. I'm not going to rewatch something I've already watched 1.5 times.

There's other people here who can watch it. It is a great video though. I highly recommend people watch it. I subscribe to only two football related things on YouTube, and Brooks is one of them.
Posted by Bradb5291
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 6:43 pm to
quote:

Sounds like you have your mind made up even after admitting you didn't watch the video and acknowledging that Brooks might not have even said what VHS said he said


Did you not read the first comment in this thread? That’s what I was basing my comment on, but like I stated Brooks wouldn’t have said that without any actual evidence.

I just rewatched his breakdown of the ole miss game. Pretty sure Bobo and Searels had to take the greyhound back to Athens. They ran inside zone runs the majority of the game with a few counters and like one or two toss plays. He did mention how they should have ran more outside zone with the d line stunting majority of the plays. And Walter Nolen was by far the best player on that field. Pretty sure that game film alone got him drafted in the first round.
This post was edited on 8/6/25 at 7:56 pm
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:17 pm to
quote:

Did you not read the first comment in this thread? That’s what I was basing my comment on, but like I stated Brooks wouldn’t have said that without any actual evidence.

I just rewatched his breakdown of the ole miss game. Pretty sure Bobo and Searels had to take the greyhound back to Athens. They ran inside zone runs the majority of the game with a few counters and like one or two toss plays. He did mention how they should have ran more outside zone with the d line stunting majority of the plays. And Walter Nolen was by far the best player on that field. Pretty sure that game film alone got him drafted in the first round.


At any point did Brooks say that Bobo never installed the outside zone? You can say he didn't call it enough, that's play calling critique. The accusation here is that Brooks said it was never even installed in the playbook. That's the accusation here. That's the subject.
Posted by Dawg4Life47
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Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:22 pm to
There is a lot of rose colored glasses related to Bobo on this board. Cough, cough, this thread…
Posted by deeprig9
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72832 posts
Posted on 8/6/25 at 8:23 pm to
Won the SEC Championship with a backup QB.

Fire that motherfricker.
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