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When you give a team 4 extra outs in an inning, especially in the bottom of the 9th,

Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:15 am
Posted by Fan1958
Soon to be Casper, WY
Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:15 am
you are going to lose.

First baseman out of his lane for a certain out. One extra out.

All American, top draft pick shortstop with a sure game ending double play, taking a force at third instead. Two extra outs. Did he lose track of the outs and think there were already two out?

Left fielder trips over his own feet on a routine game ending liner, ball hits ground, two runs score. Another extra out.

People talk about DVH and choking. No, his players have let him down TWICE in the CWS at the most inopportune times.
This post was edited on 6/19/25 at 8:17 am
Posted by terriblegreen
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:17 am to
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Did he lose track of the outs and think there were already two out?


What difference would this make? You don't need to get the lead runner if there are two outs.
Posted by GrizzlyWintergreen
Member since Jun 2025
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:19 am to
To get this far is a task all on its own. The calls to can him are...retarded at best
Posted by FWBTigah
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:20 am to
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What difference would this make?


Did you not read? If there were two outs and he made that play game is over. Poster was speaking inn hypotheticals.
Posted by Fan1958
Soon to be Casper, WY
Member since Oct 2020
527 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:21 am to
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What difference would this make? You don't need to get the lead runner if there are two outs.
Because it was the easiest and shortest route to an out. IF there had been two out and the out at third was the game ender, it was the safest route. Short throw, runner not coming into the third baseman.

No, the only explanation is Aloy had to think there were two outs and this would end the game.
This post was edited on 6/19/25 at 8:23 am
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:23 am to
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Left fielder trips over his own feet on a routine game ending liner, ball hits ground, two runs score. Another extra out.
not routine, that ball was scalded w top spin.

LF took a step back, at that point he has to play ball off the hop. His mistake was going for the catch on a sinking liner w a two run lead.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:25 am to
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People talk about DVH and choking. No, his players have let him down TWICE in the CWS

It wasn't Dave either time and every loss he's taken it. That's coaches being coaches as we all know. Jay would say/do the same.

Go get that 8th trophy (spit). We'll be behind y'all
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:27 am to
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First baseman out of his lane for a certain out. One extra out.


I think 6 was going to beat it out either way

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People talk about DVH and choking. No, his players have let him down TWICE in the CWS at the most inopportune times.


Agreed, but DVH often times deserves blame on how he handles his BP. Last night not being one of them, in a vacuum, but when looking at the wider picture, we would’ve been cooked tonight.
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:31 am to

Bulsh. The lineup and pen last night never came into play. It was defense that killed us
Posted by IamNotaRobot
OKC
Member since Nov 2021
1423 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:35 am to
Yep. That’s college baseball and the New York Yankees in game 5 of the WS. Defensive miscues.
Posted by chickenwing
USA
Member since Jul 2010
449 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:37 am to
LSU gave Arky a few extra outs as well. I realize they were not in the 9th inning but they still were give aways if we are keeping score.

Catcher’s interference gave an extra out but LSU did not let Arky capitalize on it.

Not turning the double play led to 2 runs for Arky.

Slipping down on the “fake steal of 2nd base essentially took a run off the board for LSU.
Posted by ApisMellifera
SWLA
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:37 am to
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LF took a step back, at that point he has to play ball off the hop. His mistake was going for the catch on a sinking liner w a two run lead.


He went forward, then back, then forward again which caused him to slip it looked like.

If he would have gone with his initial read, game over.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
17153 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:40 am to
Arkansas could be up 12 with two outs in the bottom of the ninth with the bases empty, and Van Horn would blow it.

And regardless of if they had won last night, you know damn well he'd shite the bed today.

It's what they do in all sports.
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
17752 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:41 am to
As I said, last night was not one of those times.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24832 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:42 am to
There was no choking, it was guys trying to do to much and getting out of their routine and fundamentals. It was effort to be honest. Kid should not have tried to end the game on the line drive, he should have let it bounce and field it. Yes, he gives up a run, but he keeps it 4 - 5. It was just a kid trying to hard and not thinking it through.
Posted by cubsfan5150
NWA
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:42 am to
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We'll be behind y'all


The hell we will
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
20207 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:45 am to
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There was no choking, it was guys trying to do to much and getting out of their routine and fundamentals.

I mean, that's kind of the definition of choking in sports.

I feel for them. But obviously thrilled LSU did not have to play an extra game.
This post was edited on 6/19/25 at 8:46 am
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
68469 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:45 am to

I'll have to break away i guess. Yellow Bone 8 vs Coastal 2 is an easy pick.
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/19/25 at 8:46 am to
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No, the only explanation is Aloy had to think there were two outs and this would end the game.


He obviously didn't because he would've started premature celebrating if he thought he got the last out. He didn't react at all.

The reality is he was being way too conservative (probably nerves) and took the easiest route to an out.
This post was edited on 6/19/25 at 8:47 am
Posted by Vandyrone
Nashville, TN
Member since Dec 2012
7792 posts
Posted on 6/19/25 at 9:11 am to
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The reality is he was being way too conservative (probably nerves) and took the easiest route to an out.

Fielder always thinks where he’s going with the ball before the pitch. It was the most routine DP ball hit right at him. Was going to 3rd really what he had in mind before the pitch?

When he made that mistake, I knew they were cooked.
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