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Sadly, the Marshall situation could easily happen to any SEC team

Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:02 am
Posted by EatsleepdrinkLSU
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:02 am
I know many SEC fans - myself included - sometimes think that since we're the best conference in the country that we're beyond reproach, but the Marshall situation could easily happen to any SEC team, regardless of what team we support.

At some point, the NCAA has to address the serious issues with NIL and the transfer portal because players shouldn't be allowed to just jump ship without some type of repercussion. It's hard to understand how a program like Marshall can go out and have an outstanding season, win the Sun Belt Conference and can't play in a bowl game because almost the entire roster decided to leave and follow their coach.

I don't know the answer, and yes, I agree that the NCAA is powerless, but at some point, something has to be done. It's Marshall today, but the reality is, it could happen to any team in the country next year.

This is not what college football is supposed to look like.

Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
35589 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:04 am to
At least make players in the playoffs wait.

Or they have to change the window.

Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
15247 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:04 am to
NCAA has no power to do anything. The only way to fix it is a break off league that can come to some type of agreement on rules and enforcement.

NCAA literally has no ability to enforce anything at this point.
Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:04 am to
Context for the uninformed, please: what's the Marshall situation? I assume you're referencing Marshall University...
This post was edited on 12/16/24 at 10:14 am
Posted by USAFTiger42
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2016
3452 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:06 am to
Screw it just ditch the bowls and make the playoffs like FCS. Otherwise we're just gonna have this if nothing can be done which I think we might be sunk trying to push back on anything
Posted by bengalbait
Grove Lounge
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:07 am to
Any player that voluntarily enters the transfer portal should be required to sit out a complete season and lose that year of eligibility.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
19285 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:10 am to
quote:

Context for the uninformed: what's the Marshall situation? I assume you're referencing Marshall University...
I could be off, but I was counting the number of their players that went in the portal and it was over 40.

They might not have been able to field a team at certain positions. Several positions probably without having guys play positions they never even practiced.
Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:13 am to
Gotcha, thanks.

Posted by Syd
Member since Sep 2012
4098 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:14 am to
Programs will start firing the coach after the last game.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
19285 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:16 am to
quote:

At some point, the NCAA has to address the serious issues with NIL and the transfer portal because players shouldn't be allowed to just jump ship without some type of repercussion.
I think legally this has already been addressed and they can’t, but the 1 year sit out rule really needs to return before this gets completely out of hand. At least make it a 6 game suspension.

Scholarships becoming more like contracts may be the only way. That has a legal can of worms I’m sure also.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72925 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:17 am to
Could have easily happened to Alabama had Saban announced his retirement before the Rose Bowl. Imagine having to opt out of a CFP game because you had 35 portal entrees.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
50841 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:18 am to
It did to LSU during the coaching transition
We had Kirklin playing QB
Between opt outs for those going pro and first year of portal LSU had a decimated roster.

Look what happened to Fla St last season with pro opt outs and the mismatch with UGA it was.

Penn St backup QB has entered portal and won't participate in playoffs.
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
19285 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:19 am to
quote:

Programs will start firing the coach after the last game.
Not sure how that helps. If I’m not mistaken Coach changes open the portal process earlier.
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Member since Nov 2019
13057 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:21 am to
quote:

Sadly, the Marshall situation could easily happen to any SEC team


Yeah. All it could take would be an error by a pilot, air traffic controller, or a maintenance person.
Posted by HogX
Madison, WI
Member since Dec 2012
5379 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:21 am to
quote:

NCAA has no power to do anything. The only way to fix it is a break off league that can come to some type of agreement on rules and enforcement.

NCAA literally has no ability to enforce anything at this point.


Yep, fixed term contracts and direct revenue sharing with a player's association will be on the way in the next few years.

5 years ago, I would have absolutely hated this idea. But anything is better than the current structureless shitshow.

quote:

Yeah. All it could take would be an error by a pilot, air traffic controller, or a maintenance person.


Also what I thought this thread was about when I opened it up
This post was edited on 12/16/24 at 10:23 am
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
12322 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:27 am to
quote:

At some point, the NCAA has to address the serious issues with NIL and the transfer portal because players shouldn't be allowed to just jump ship without some type of repercussion


I agree but not in this case. Marshall's head coach left to take the Southern Miss job so, even under the previous rules, players would have been allowed to transfer.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
19656 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:30 am to
Marshall won the Sun Belt Conference, and their coach got poached by an in-conference team. Over 40 players entered the portal to follow him.

Marshall doesnt have enough players to play their bowl game after winning a conference title.
Posted by FootballFrenzy
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Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:31 am to
quote:

Marshall won the Sun Belt Conference, and their coach got poached by an in-conference team. Over 40 players entered the portal to follow him.

Marshall doesnt have enough players to play their bowl game after winning a conference title.

That's really sad...

College football is broken. I hope it gets fixed. It can't go on like this forever...can it?
Posted by SingleMalt1973
Member since Feb 2022
19434 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:34 am to
Is it really a suprise that when the Government gets involved or interjects itself into any industry it immediately goes to hell.

Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
45396 posts
Posted on 12/16/24 at 10:38 am to
Sport has been on a slippery slope for years.

Nobody used to sit out the bowl games and fans cheered when they won the toilet bowl. I remember when Auburn was triumphant over Larry Johnson after people tried to say we couldnt stop him. That was a good ending to the season.


Then McCaffery and others started sitting out. "But the bowl game is meaningless" they said. It wasn't meaningless to me when we won, but we have to be okay when our top corner chooses to sit out in a bowl game we eventually we lose in.

Now the games dont have to necessarily be meaningless anymore. Players on CFP teams have to get in the portal before spots are taken, especially those that need to strike while the iron is hot.

Marshall isnt really relevant to the SEC as they are only half-serious about football but let's be real, the game is a joke.

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