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Honest question: re Gruden
Posted on 12/12/24 at 11:56 am
Posted on 12/12/24 at 11:56 am
Let's just ignore all the past Gruden/Ark bullshite and look at him as a potential college HC independently.
He said 2 yrs ago in LR he wanted to coach college again and even mentioned Simmons Bank for NIL.
Gruden is actually not a great coach, but he has the Prime/Belichick celebrity and nfl factor. Would he actually be able to unlock the vast untapped Ark booster/corporate $, or would he fail miserably because it ultimately comes down to coaching and nothing else?
He said 2 yrs ago in LR he wanted to coach college again and even mentioned Simmons Bank for NIL.
Gruden is actually not a great coach, but he has the Prime/Belichick celebrity and nfl factor. Would he actually be able to unlock the vast untapped Ark booster/corporate $, or would he fail miserably because it ultimately comes down to coaching and nothing else?
Posted on 12/12/24 at 12:02 pm to Jack Ruby

Holy frick, make it stop

Posted on 12/12/24 at 12:04 pm to Jack Ruby
I would like to do anything that gets us talked about on social media/espn. Kids today care about clout more than just about anything else. Anything that gives us that will help.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 12:15 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
UNC and Colorado have been in the media cycle nonstop fmsince their hires. Gruden would do the same for Ark.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 1:23 pm to Jack Ruby
Gruden would not be in a positive light.
He's in Europe because he's too toxic after the email scandal for anyone in the US to employ him.
He's in Europe because he's too toxic after the email scandal for anyone in the US to employ him.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 1:26 pm to DaleDenton
quote:maybe to the media but it’s a name our boosters would donate too. Not that I think anyone near the university would a tuallly consider hiring him but it WOULD work. In the sense that we would have way more NIL money to throw around
Gruden would not be in a positive light
Posted on 12/12/24 at 1:35 pm to Jack Ruby
Me when prime and Gruden get brought up.


Posted on 12/12/24 at 1:36 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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Kids today care about clout more than just about anything else.
Nah they care about the bag. It’s always the bag.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 2:28 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
He's a big name to the boomer crowd, sure.
Recruits today weren't alive during his prime years coaching.
Recruits today weren't alive during his prime years coaching.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 2:40 pm to Jack Ruby
Gruden's last go around with Mike Mayock as GM didn't leave great impressions that he would do great in the current NIL marketplace.
He probably couldn't be worse than whatever Pittman does without a GM in valuing players and positional value but I'm still believe Arkansas needs a young coach and staff who understands the players they recruit and have a GM in place who can be the person that deals with the agents of the recruits and players on the team. GM is a relationship position in college with agents.
Us not having one is killing Pittman because Pittman the HC is very different than Pittman the positional coach when it comes to relationships with players IMO.
He probably couldn't be worse than whatever Pittman does without a GM in valuing players and positional value but I'm still believe Arkansas needs a young coach and staff who understands the players they recruit and have a GM in place who can be the person that deals with the agents of the recruits and players on the team. GM is a relationship position in college with agents.
Us not having one is killing Pittman because Pittman the HC is very different than Pittman the positional coach when it comes to relationships with players IMO.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 2:42 pm to RazorHawg
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Pittman does without a GM in valuing players and positional value
GM coming in April

Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:32 pm to RazorHawg
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Arkansas needs a young coach and staff who understands the players they recruit
34) Glenn Schumann, (Kirby’s right hand from Alabama until he became a DC for Kirby)
36) GJ Kinne had Texas State looking decent.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:32 pm to ArHog
We need to do something. UNC is about to crush it with belichik. If we could pick up a big name has been it might be our best path back to relevance
Posted on 12/12/24 at 3:39 pm to Hawgnsincebirth55
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We need to do something
"I want to be clear, we have money"
Posted on 12/15/24 at 2:04 am to ArHog
Hey we just landed 3-4 guys who never played at big programs in place of all-conf level starters that are all going to our biggest rivals in the SEC in Ole Miss and UT. We're so back!
Posted on 12/15/24 at 10:19 am to Hawgnsincebirth55
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UNC is about to crush it with belichik.
Not unless he finds some oddly middle aged looking kid named Trom Badey in the transfer portal
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