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DeBoer is a wimp. Culture is already bad at Bama according to starting TE

Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:25 pm
Posted by Shaft Williams
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Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:25 pm
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After Alabama took its second loss of the season Saturday, an attempt is being made this week to tighten up the ship.

Tight end CJ Dippre said there is an emphasis on, "just tak[ing] pride in the small things," and elaborated on what that means around the facility.

"We got to just kind of take details and the small things," the senior said Tuesday. "Don't get bored with the basics. Get back to what we're supposed to wear -- shirts tucked in, five minutes, 10 minutes early to meetings. Not all this late stuff. Not doing what you want to do.

"Just little things like that carry over to the football field. Because then if you take one wrong step, one wrong thing, it just all carries over. So you got to act everything, all throughout the day. Going to class on time. Everything is like would want to do on the football field."


Alabama has been sliding on the field since the second quarter of the Georgia game Sept. 28, and has lost two games before November for the first time since 2007. Alabama has the seventh-most penalty yards per game (78.3) of any FBS team.

"[Coach Kalen DeBoer] knows that we have to do better," wide receiver Germie Bernard said Tuesday. "He's just gonna continue to instill in us the things that we need to do to be better, and to be better in practice. Be better off the field. Be more disciplined with the things we need off the field, like just making sure we're checking in on time, making sure we're getting to meetings on time. Things like that. With the mindset that he has, our team -- we still have everything in front of us that we want. I think we will accomplish that."

Bernard provided some more examples of what those "small things" are that Dippre mentioned. "Just be more disciplined in practice," Bernard said. "Hone in on the small details within the playbook. Word hard, executing. The off the field work, just continuing to lift hard, continue to recover right, continue to hydrate right. Continue to put the right things in your body with nutrition. When he talks about those things, those are the key components that we have to hone in on to be better."


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Posted by Cocotheape
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:31 pm to
This is why you don’t want to follow the legend. You will never replicate the results, and any difference in approach gets identified as why you aren’t meeting the old standards.

Eventually, the coach ends up chasing his tail over things like tucked in shirts and isn’t even running the program his way anymore. At that point, whatever success they had that got them hired in the first place starts to fall away since are beholden to the boosters/admin/fanbase outcry.
This post was edited on 10/22/24 at 3:32 pm
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:32 pm to
Shaft, this story came out three hours ago.

Do you honestly think an LSU fan hasn't already posted it here?

I think they must have teh Google Alerts set up.
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
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Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:34 pm to
I've been in management for 40 years. It's always better to start out a hard arse and soften up if your employees earn it. If you start soft and then try to tighten up, almost never works.

I think CKD did the later and it's going to be hard to tighten the reins now.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
10199 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:36 pm to
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I've been in management for 40 years. It's always better to start out a hard arse and soften up if your employees earn it. If you start soft and then try to tighten up, almost never works.

I think CKD did the later and it's going to be hard to tighten the reins now.


I had a conversation about this and DeBoer with my cousin. If you have a wimp in a leadership position things will get shitty rapidly. And, that is what's going on at Bama. We no longer have a leader of the football program.
Posted by Cocotheape
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:37 pm to
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I've been in management for 40 years. It's always better to start out a hard arse and soften up if your employees earn it. If you start soft and then try to tighten up, almost never works. I think CKD did the later and it's going to be hard to tighten the reins now.


Problem is, Deboer was never going to be a hard arse compared to Saban.
Posted by Hugh McElroy
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:38 pm to
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This is why you don’t want to follow the legend.


Tom Osborne followed a legend and became a bigger legend.
Posted by AdamDeMamp
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Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:38 pm to
Not enough Bama in him
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
10199 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:40 pm to
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Problem is, Deboer was never going to be a hard arse compared to Saban.


It's a lot of coaches who aren't hard asses who are successful and hold players accountable. But, being a wimpy, friend-type to the players is a for sure recipe for disaster.
Posted by Harry Wong
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Member since Oct 2024
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Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:42 pm to
When a program starts to decline look at the little things like a player acting a fool like Malachi did. Saban would've never tolerated that.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:52 pm to
I'm just now seeing it. You typing lsu fans is my only alert needed
Posted by gypsy2091
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:53 pm to
He's from a pansyass liberal state so what do you expect
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 10/22/24 at 3:58 pm to
Posted by 3down10
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Posted on 10/22/24 at 4:00 pm to
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When a program starts to decline look at the little things like a player acting a fool like Malachi did. Saban would've never tolerated that.


Except he did.

Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
30934 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 4:03 pm to
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This is why you don’t want to follow the legend. You will never replicate the results, and any difference in approach gets identified as why you aren’t meeting the old standards.

Eventually, the coach ends up chasing his tail over things like tucked in shirts and isn’t even running the program his way anymore. At that point, whatever success they had that got them hired in the first place starts to fall away since are beholden to the boosters/admin/fanbase outcry.


So far it's not as bad as it was back in the 80's when everyone complained constantly talking about "What Bear would have done".

I learned to ignore them a long time ago. I'll give DeBoer time and see what happens. These issues aren't really new, just more public without Saban keeping a lid on everyone.
Posted by Opry
Member since Oct 2023
5206 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 4:05 pm to
Milroe's era needs to end and the team needs to get rid of some selfish players. And Deboer's discipline and coaching direction is in question.
This post was edited on 10/22/24 at 4:07 pm
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
45436 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 4:10 pm to
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And Deboer's discipline and coaching directiojn is in question.

Even in Washington's championship year his team was 127th in the country in penalties per game. That part might just be who he is.
This post was edited on 10/22/24 at 4:11 pm
Posted by dalefla
Central FL
Member since Jul 2024
2024 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 4:10 pm to
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Problem is, Deboer was never going to be a hard arse compared to Saban.


Coach Saban also identified the alphas on team and empowered them to be enforcers. McClain, Fitzpatrick, even McCarron, etc...

I don't see anyone on the field with that mentality.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
69050 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 4:13 pm to
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Even in Washington's championship year his team was 127th in the country in penalties per game. That part might just be who he is.

They were also almost dead last in the country pass defense and had 9 games last year decided by 1 score. Sound familiar?
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
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Member since Nov 2012
63030 posts
Posted on 10/22/24 at 4:13 pm to
From an outside perspective this is all too true. Yall need to win this game here so we can have a top 15 showdown in br
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