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re: The criticism of Brian Kelly is interesting

Posted on 5/8/24 at 4:18 pm to
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
53484 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 4:18 pm to
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Facilities mean little due to NIL. This is why Ole Miss pivoted and stopped putting funds to a stadium refurbishment and put the funds toward NIL. Miami at their greatest never had great facilities.


If you're just outright buying players, then I agree.

Great facilities still mean something if you're taking the approach that schools like Georgia, Ohio State, and LSU are taking.

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Talent. In-state recruiting is going to be tougher now b/c paying players has always existed but with NIL the pay is more b/c there's more transparency. Honestly, at this point, both Miami and Ole Miss have more talented rosters than LSU.


Absolutely no way.

LSU was at #7 in the 2023 Team Talent Composite, Miami was at #12, Ole Miss was at #23.

Impossible to make up that much of a difference in one offseason.

Overall 247 Composite Recruiting Rankings for 2024 (transfers and recruits):

6. Miami
9. LSU
17. Ole Miss

Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9471 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 4:25 pm to
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Absolutely no way.

LSU was at #7 in the 2023 Team Talent Composite, Miami was at #12, Ole Miss was at #23.

Impossible to make up that much of a difference in one offseason.

Overall 247 Composite Recruiting Rankings for 2024 (transfers and recruits):

6. Miami
9. LSU
17. Ole Miss


Ole Miss and Miami have better DLs than LSU, better secondaries than LSU, I'll give LSU a slight edge on OL over both schools but Miami and Ole Miss have really good OLs, Cam Ward and Jaxon Dart have proven more at this time as college QBs than Nuss, LSU has better WRs than Miami but not Ole Miss, I think Ole Miss and Miami have better RBs than LSU. Ole Miss and Miami might be a wash with LSU at LB.

I don't know if you've ever seen him play but Miami's Reuben Bain is a better DL than anyone in the SEC save maybe Walter Nolen.
This post was edited on 5/8/24 at 4:26 pm
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4678 posts
Posted on 5/8/24 at 4:39 pm to
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LSU was at #7 in the 2023 Team Talent Composite, Miami was at #12, Ole Miss was at #23.

Impossible to make up that much of a difference in one offseason.

Overall 247 Composite Recruiting Rankings for 2024 (transfers and recruits):

6. Miami
9. LSU
17. Ole Miss


On field success is a combination of talent, experience and coaching.

Michigan wasn't incredibly talented last year (#14 in the talent composite, 1 spot ahead of Florida). But their talent was VERY experienced (60 of their players were juniors or seniors). They basically used the covid year exemption to have one of the oldest rosters in CFB history.

They combined experience with a pretty good (if annoying) head coach to win a national title.

I tend to think the guy you were responding to was trying to claim Miami and Ole Miss's rosters were more talented in the combination of talent with experience was higher than LSU. When you recruit more through the portal than through high school recruiting, you can consistently put forward a roster that might not have more talent in the sense of where players could develop to by the end of their career, but might have more talent in terms of what the players can do the following season (because they're older).

I'm still not sure even that is true, but it's closer to being true than just looking at stars.
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