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re: The criticism of Brian Kelly is interesting
Posted on 5/8/24 at 12:53 pm to 3down10
Posted on 5/8/24 at 12:53 pm to 3down10
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Because LSU is still making bids, they just aren't the highest. You don't make bids and then claim you don't "buy players" just because you were outbid.
He's full of shite. He's perfectly fine when LSU wins the bid and LSU is certainly putting in bids. He even says so himself talking about the "NIL around BR".
He never said that they aren't paying players.
He just said they aren't interested in players who are only interested in going to the highest bidder.
This post was edited on 5/8/24 at 12:59 pm
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Posted on 5/8/24 at 12:56 pm to meansonny
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Every coach does say that. Which is why this is a non-issue,
Saying it and meaning it are 2 different things, though.
When LSU offers an NIL package, do they ever raise it in negotiation?
If they do, then he is full of shite.
Of of the hundreds of people who have commented on this sound bite today, I bet 95% of them didn't even bother to listen to everything he said, including you. He states in the interview that there are NIL opportunities for players they are recruiting to LSU. Of course that is part of what they offer to every player that is worthy of a NIL deal, just like everyone else does. What they are not going to do is offer a random DT in the spring portal more than any player on the roster or any assistant coach makes in a year just because he wants the biggest bag.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 12:57 pm to meansonny
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Saying it and meaning it are 2 different things, though.
When LSU offers an NIL package, do they ever raise it in negotiation?
If they do, then he is full of shite.
Not really.
Let's say LSU offers a player $400k and Texas offers him $450k, the player approaches LSU and asks if they can be a little more competitive.
LSU gives him $425k and he goes to LSU, that's a player that isn't only interested in money or he would've just went to the highest bidder.
Some kids are wanting a competitive offer plus a good chance at development, etc
Some are just looking for the most money, BK is saying he doesn't want those just interested in money.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 12:59 pm to SidewalkTiger
I’m gonna steal your favorite word here…
It’s wild that at this point in your trolling career you don’t understand that tRant just dunks on each other no matter the reason. You arguing about this for 3 pages ain’t gonna change anyone’s mind
It’s wild that at this point in your trolling career you don’t understand that tRant just dunks on each other no matter the reason. You arguing about this for 3 pages ain’t gonna change anyone’s mind
Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:00 pm to Lucado
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Of of the hundreds of people who have commented on this sound bite today, I bet 95% of them didn't even bother to listen to everything he said, including you.
People are changing his words then saying he's lying.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:01 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Provide an example
You are a living example, bro
I mean so am I but that's how I know
Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:01 pm to Frac the world
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I’m gonna steal your favorite word here…
It’s wild that at this point in your trolling career you don’t understand that tRant just dunks on each other no matter the reason. You arguing about this for 3 pages ain’t gonna change anyone’s mind
I didn't "dunk" on Nick Saban for saying essentially the same thing because I agree with him.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:01 pm to Lucado
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What they are not going to do is offer a random DT in the spring portal more than any player on the roster or any assistant coach makes in a year just because he wants the biggest bag.
You literally avoided the question.
Does LSU negotiate the bag?
Or is it "take it or leave it. First offer is best offer"?
If they negotiate, than he is full of shite.
I presume nothing else has changed at LSU between the first offer and 2nd (same majors offered. Same facilities. Staff/scheme).
If nothing has changed in terms of all the things that LSU is bringing to the athletes who want to be Tigers, then a higher 2nd offer is exactly what Brian Kelly is claiming that they do not do.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:03 pm to SidewalkTiger
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He never said that they aren't paying players.
He just said they aren't interested in players who are only interested in going to the highest bidder.
Yeah, and it's bullshite. If you put in a bid at an auction and then lose to a higher bidder, you don't get to pretend like you never bid at all.
As usual, here you are to be sleazy and spin anything that allows you to suck off BK.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:08 pm to meansonny
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You literally avoided the question.
Does LSU negotiate the bag?
Or is it "take it or leave it. First offer is best offer"?
If they negotiate, than he is full of shite.
I presume nothing else has changed at LSU between the first offer and 2nd (same majors offered. Same facilities. Staff/scheme).
If nothing has changed in terms of all the things that LSU is bringing to the athletes who want to be Tigers, then a higher 2nd offer is exactly what Brian Kelly is claiming that they do not do.
I don't know whether they "negotiate" for a fact, but it stands to reason that they do. What I do know is what our On3 moderators have reported, and they don't report bullshite speculation. They report what they can verify. Williams came to LSU and left LSU with an NIL offer that was commensurate with what every other school that was recruiting him had offered up to that point. Then he returned home and his handler suddenly wanted more money than any player or assistant coach on staff is currently making. LSU told him to frick off. So did Texas. He committed to OU. End of story.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:22 pm to 3down10
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Yeah, and it's bullshite. If you put in a bid at an auction and then lose to a higher bidder, you don't get to pretend like you never bid at all.
As usual, here you are to be sleazy and spin anything that allows you to suck off BK.
He never said that.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:25 pm to 195bc
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I think you grossly misunderstand the opinion of the board. The opinion of the board is that NIL and the transfer portal are ruining college sports. They have no problem with their school engaging in the practice as needed.
Kelly saying that was a stupid thing to do and will hurt his recruiting efforts. He may have said it because LSU actually has a limited NIL budget and can't afford anyone else right now.
This is the answer. They didn't have the bread. Kelly would've simply been better off saying we couldn't find the right fit and move on. But Instead, he wanted to fake some nobility.
This post was edited on 5/8/24 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:26 pm to SidewalkTiger
Sidewalk is always shocked he gets so many worst poster votes every year
Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:27 pm to Shingo
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Sidewalk is always shocked he gets so many worst poster votes every year
Not really, I wish it were more
Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:29 pm to Pandy Fackler
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This is the answer. They didn't have the bread. Kelly would've simply been better off saying we couldn't find the right fit and move on. But Instead, he wanted to fake some nobility.
Let's assume this is true.
Why did Texas back out at the same time as LSU? Are they out of money also?
Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:29 pm to SidewalkTiger
So edgy
So dark
So southern miss
So dark
So southern miss
Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:31 pm to Shingo
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So edgy
So dark
So southern miss
SMTTT
Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:33 pm to Pandy Fackler
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This is the answer. They didn't have the bread. Kelly would've simply been better off saying we couldn't find the right fit and move on. But Instead, he wanted to fake some nobility.
This is either a short sighted and simple minded take, or a troll (it's the latter). They could have paid the kid and his handler $1.5 - $2 million to come to LSU if they wanted to. Texas certainly could have. But that was above his market value. And then they would have had to explain that decision to every other player on the roster that is making less than that. We all saw what happened to the locker room at A&M after they bought the "greatest recruiting class of all time". It imploded when the juniors and senors on the team saw what the freshmen mercenaries had been promised. And now a large number of those players have transferred out after not having accomplished a damn thing. You're trolling Kelly for saying the same thing Saban has been preaching since he retired.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:39 pm to SidewalkTiger
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He never said that.
Yes he did, I watched the video. He even went so far as to talk about what LSU NIL had to offer, aka what LSU bids.
As usual you sit around and pretend like people don't say more than their actual words, but I'm not that dishonest or dumb.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 1:47 pm to 3down10
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Yes he did, I watched the video. He even went so far as to talk about what LSU NIL had to offer, aka what LSU bids.
But you just said he's trying to pretend that LSU doesn't bid for players.
I think it's pretty clear that LSU pays players, I'm sure they pay market value, they may pay certain players more than market value.
Kelly is clearly saying they aren't going to pay some outlandish number to some random transfer portal player though.
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