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Are there still people out there that believe Bama's coordinators...

Posted on 12/5/23 at 4:21 pm
Posted by Crimsonians
Member since Nov 2019
1923 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 4:21 pm
Weren't the problem the last few years?
Posted by crimsonuatide
Member since Jul 2017
2013 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 4:28 pm to
The first thing that jumped out at me game 1 was defense playing faster, hitting harder, and taking better angles.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61549 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 4:28 pm to
I mean, based on what?

Everyone is painting Alabama as some great team because of recency bias but this team has looked very flawed at times this season.

I mean, you played for a natty in 2021 with your "bad coordinators" and trounced Georgia in the SEC title.

Posted by rolltide32
Fort Payne, AL
Member since Nov 2013
6569 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 4:32 pm to
Comparing Golding to Steele is like trying to compare a Suzuki to a Lexus.
Posted by mwlewis
JeffCo
Member since Nov 2010
21507 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 4:33 pm to
Golding is a bum
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105096 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 4:33 pm to
quote:

I mean, based on what?


Argue about the offense all you want but the defensive numbers vs Top 25 offenses is as black and white a change as could exist. There is no argument.

2023 Stats vs FEI Top 25 Offenses (#1 LSU, #3 Georgia, #15 Texas, #16 Ole Miss, #22 Texas A&M, #25 Tennessee)
- 377 yds per game
- 22.7 PPG

2022 Stats vs FEI Top 25 Offenses (#4 Tennessee, #9 LSU, #12 Ole Miss, #16 Texas, #19 K-State, #24 Arkansas)
- 414 yds per game
- 28.8 PPG


This post was edited on 12/5/23 at 4:40 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61549 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

Argue about the offense all you want but the defensive numbers vs Top 20 offenses is as black and white a change as could exist. There is no argument.


What do the birds eye numbers look like, such as opponent YPG and PPG?

I'm sure there are absolutely nuanced differences in specific approaches, but are the results really that much better?

Some of that is the result of Alabama being so good, that there wasn't much room for improvement.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105096 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

What do the birds eye numbers look like, such as opponent YPG and PPG?

I'm sure there are absolutely nuanced differences in specific approaches, but are the results really that much better?


A full TD a game better.


2023 Stats vs FEI Top 25 Offenses (#1 LSU, #3 Georgia, #15 Texas, #16 Ole Miss, #22 Texas A&M, #25 Tennessee)
- Avg off rank : #13.7
- 377 yds per game
- 22.7 PPG

2022 Stats vs FEI Top 25 Offenses (#4 Tennessee, #9 LSU, #12 Ole Miss, #16 Texas, #19 K-State, #24 Arkansas)
- Avg off rank : #14.0
- 414 yds per game
- 28.8 PPG

2021 Stats vs FEI Top 25 Offenses (#3 Georgia (2x), #5 Tennessee, #12 Ole Miss, #20 Arkansas)
- Avg off rank : #9.2
- 384 yds per game
- 27.4 PPG

2020 Stats vs FEI Top 25 Offenses (#4 Ohio State, #9 Ole Miss, #10 Florida, #18 Notre Dame, #19 Texas A&M, #23 Georgia)
- Avg off rank : #13.8
- 448 yds per game
- 30.0 PPG
This post was edited on 12/5/23 at 4:56 pm
Posted by Decker
Member since Nov 2015
3450 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 4:40 pm to
Defense was our weakness the past two years, despite talent. This year it is our strength.

Offense is harder to judge as a great QB (Young) can make anyone look good, but if you judge a coordinator by the progress his new QB makes over the course of a season, then Rees has knocked it out of the park.

Every Bama fan I know thinks we upgraded. We underperformed the previous two seasons.
Posted by skipjackbama
Member since Apr 2023
1502 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 4:41 pm to
Rees adjustments since Oct have been great
Posted by Pimphand
Member since Sep 2021
2886 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 4:43 pm to
I'm pretty sure Rees is still meh. He just looked better once Milroe started powering up.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61549 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 4:47 pm to
I don't understand why Milroe wasn't really turned loose on the ground until the LSU game.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72921 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 4:51 pm to
quote:

don't understand why Milroe wasn't really turned loose on the ground until the LSU game.


An ankle injury is part of the reason.
Posted by TiggerWoods
Auburn
Member since Nov 2010
4175 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 4:56 pm to
I thought it was Saban's defense?

The offense isn't bad but its not nearly as strong as O'Brien's offenses were.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61549 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 5:02 pm to
Fair enough, I definitely thought the defense looked more physical however the Auburn game kind of surprised me.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105096 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 5:06 pm to
quote:

Auburn game kind of surprised me


Hat tip to Hugh, he schemed us, both in the run game and in some big moments with pass plays (the touchdown pass out of the backfield).

Even then, Auburn scored 24 pts and had 337 yards, both below their SEC averages and roughly the same as their Georgia performance (307 yards and 20 pts).
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
105096 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 5:09 pm to
quote:

I thought it was Saban's defense?


It's his philosophy and his scheme, but coordinators run the defense day to day and on gameday and call the game. Always been that way.
Posted by rolltide32
Fort Payne, AL
Member since Nov 2013
6569 posts
Posted on 12/5/23 at 5:12 pm to
quote:


A full TD a game better.


2023 Stats vs FEI Top 25 Offenses (#1 LSU, #3 Georgia, #15 Texas, #16 Ole Miss, #22 Texas A&M, #25 Tennessee)
- Avg off rank : #13.7
- 377 yds per game
- 22.7 PPG

2022 Stats vs FEI Top 25 Offenses (#4 Tennessee, #9 LSU, #12 Ole Miss, #16 Texas, #19 K-State, #24 Arkansas)
- Avg off rank : #14.0
- 414 yds per game
- 28.8 PPG


Take away a TD in every game against Top 25 offenses and Alabama is undefeated in 2022.

Add a TD every game against top 25 offenses in 2023 and Alabama has 2 more losses.

So yeah I'd say it makes big fricking difference
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