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re: the ramifications of the decision
Posted on 12/4/23 at 2:01 pm to stephendomalley
Posted on 12/4/23 at 2:01 pm to stephendomalley
The ramification of the decision is something that was already in place: we are going from a 4-team playoff to a 12-team playoff.
With four spots to give out, and there not being a whole lot of separation among the P5 conference champions, it was inevitable that whoever was left out was going to be able to make a case that they should have been included. Next year, its moot.
With four spots to give out, and there not being a whole lot of separation among the P5 conference champions, it was inevitable that whoever was left out was going to be able to make a case that they should have been included. Next year, its moot.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 3:55 pm to twk
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Next year, its moot.
Nah, whoever is number 13 will be raising hell that they were robbed of being number 12.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 4:16 pm to twk
quote:Que the "X deserves that 12 spot way more than Y" arguments. Also, people will really start bitching about their seeding and who gets the bye. People are going to bitch. That's how it is.
The ramification of the decision is something that was already in place: we are going from a 4-team playoff to a 12-team playoff.
FSU joined the ACC because it was the easiest and most reliable path to a conference championship and a BCS Bowl appearance available to them at the time. It's a shite conference, that's why they joined. Bobby Bowden said publicly that winning takes care of recruiting and joining the ACC guaranteed a bunch of wins for FSU in an era where number of wins and margin of victory was a prime factor in BCS selections.
The strategy worked for them:
-They won the ACC the first 9 years they were in the conference -- in a row.
-They got two national titles in the 90s
-They lived in the top 10 for nearly 20 years -- never finished below 5th in the AP from 1991 - 2000.
-They played in the conference for almost three entire seasons before ever losing a conference game (UVA, 1995), then went another three years before losing another one (NC State, 1998), then three years again before losing their third conference game (UNC, 2001). They played almost an entire decade before losing a conference game at home (NC State, 2001).
But the chickens came home to roost this year. The Big 12 was shite too, but Texas is living off the victory in Tuscaloosa (in other words, they're in over FSU because Bama's in and they beat Bama).
The CFB world changed dramatically over the past five years or so and FSU's administration failed to put them in a position to compete for championships. It really does suck for the players and coaches because they had nothing to do with it in the present.
Posted on 12/4/23 at 5:06 pm to twk
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The ramification of the decision is something that was already in place: we are going from a 4-team playoff to a 12-team playoff.
With four spots to give out, and there not being a whole lot of separation among the P5 conference champions, it was inevitable that whoever was left out was going to be able to make a case that they should have been included. Next year, it’s moot.
Not moot at all. The 12 team playoff is not gonna be some panacea that takes the power away from the committee. And it’s not about the 13th or 14th teams that get left out. It will be about seeding. Instead of a FSU getting a deserving bye—a HUGE advantage—they’ll send them to Athena to play a road game against Georgia. Seeding is still going to give the committee more power than they should be afforded.
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