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Posted on 9/17/23 at 2:08 am
Posted on 9/17/23 at 2:08 am
I’m in Scotland so I’m well rested and didn’t stay up all night. When some of you see the time this is posted lol.
1. Saban’s comments on the team reminded of me when little Timmy finally got in the game and we all clapped and were proud. What else can he say.
2. With the state of our OL I don’t know who should play QB because Ty was getting killed, both of them. Maybe we just go one read RPO Milroe and run for the stands? Dunno but damn on this one.
3. Defense seemed to be playing hard considering USF has a slippery QB. No issues honestly. SEC play will obviously be different.
4. Roydell played his nuts off and is basically the reason we put it away.
5. I don’t have much else, I’m incredibly worried about our upcoming games.
1. Saban’s comments on the team reminded of me when little Timmy finally got in the game and we all clapped and were proud. What else can he say.
2. With the state of our OL I don’t know who should play QB because Ty was getting killed, both of them. Maybe we just go one read RPO Milroe and run for the stands? Dunno but damn on this one.
3. Defense seemed to be playing hard considering USF has a slippery QB. No issues honestly. SEC play will obviously be different.
4. Roydell played his nuts off and is basically the reason we put it away.
5. I don’t have much else, I’m incredibly worried about our upcoming games.
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Posted on 9/17/23 at 2:47 am to CrimsonBoz
I’m not very optimistic after today.
I think what pissed me off more than anything was it seemed like some guys quit and were intentionally playing bad so that Milroe could come back in. Proctor misses a block that leads to a sack and doesn’t help Simpson up. McClellan is in perfect position to block the end and basically steps to the side and lets him nail Simpson in the back. I remember a few days ago some of the linemen were tweeting things before and after the Texas game about how they stand with Milroe no matter what. They love Milroe and will sabotage this entire season to get their guy back in there if they have to. This season is done, imo. Too much division, lack of discipline, and no one holding anyone accountable. Like I’ve been saying the past few years, it all goes back to Saban and he’s just continuing to put up with it. He’s soft.
I think what pissed me off more than anything was it seemed like some guys quit and were intentionally playing bad so that Milroe could come back in. Proctor misses a block that leads to a sack and doesn’t help Simpson up. McClellan is in perfect position to block the end and basically steps to the side and lets him nail Simpson in the back. I remember a few days ago some of the linemen were tweeting things before and after the Texas game about how they stand with Milroe no matter what. They love Milroe and will sabotage this entire season to get their guy back in there if they have to. This season is done, imo. Too much division, lack of discipline, and no one holding anyone accountable. Like I’ve been saying the past few years, it all goes back to Saban and he’s just continuing to put up with it. He’s soft.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 2:52 am to Bamafan18
If that’s true we have a really bad culture and we are in for a ride.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 3:12 am to Bamafan18
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This season is done, imo
This season was done long before it ever started- and I mean years before it ever started.
Lazy-arse hires, complacency, apathy in keeping the lazy-arse hires around, subpar coaching, recruiting misevaluations, more lazy-arse hires- all contributed to the demise of this season and it started when Pete fricking Golding stepped his fat, nasty, crusty, drunk, American Athletic Conference arse on this campus and Saban let him stay here.
But, as for the OLine, c’mon. They’re not out there sabotaging the game or QBs. Hell, they almost got Milroe killed, too. McClellan just just flat-out got beat like a little bitch on the one sack. Dalcourt has sucked balls for 3 years. And Proctor doesn’t look much better.
This post was edited on 9/17/23 at 3:21 am
Posted on 9/17/23 at 3:19 am to Bamafan18
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I think what pissed me off more than anything was it seemed like some guys quit and were intentionally playing bad so that Milroe could come back in.
It's funny you say that because that's exactly what I told my wife during the game. OL Tweets were also something I saw as well last week. Something is going on behind the scenes. There's a reason Milroe dropped to 3rd on the depth chart in one week. The culture on this team is rotten.
This post was edited on 9/17/23 at 3:35 am
Posted on 9/17/23 at 3:46 am to TD7
I don't think it is rotten, I just think it hasn't been established. This is a rebuilding year, really for the first time in a very long time. Saban in his presser wasn't focused on how bad we did, he focused on competitiveness and staying in the game despite adversity. He clearly is sending the signal that this team has to develop emotionally/mentally before we can address the poor play (which makes sense with the Steele hire).
It's his job, and that of the other coaches, to have then prepared by this point sure, but we constantly have a young team with lots of turnover and eventually that has to catch up to you. In the past we've had leaders stay to make sure that the culture is maintained but we don't have that now. New coordinators just exacerbates this
Its fine imo. Saban is the GOAT and sells himself as a program builder. We may not compete for a Natty this year, but I have no doubts in his ability to get the team to where it needs to be by the end of the season. Even if that's too late, I trust that he'll be be able to maintain it into next season considering that we are likely to lose less players to the draft.
At the end of the day, it's not like we have any reason to doubt Saban.
It's his job, and that of the other coaches, to have then prepared by this point sure, but we constantly have a young team with lots of turnover and eventually that has to catch up to you. In the past we've had leaders stay to make sure that the culture is maintained but we don't have that now. New coordinators just exacerbates this
Its fine imo. Saban is the GOAT and sells himself as a program builder. We may not compete for a Natty this year, but I have no doubts in his ability to get the team to where it needs to be by the end of the season. Even if that's too late, I trust that he'll be be able to maintain it into next season considering that we are likely to lose less players to the draft.
At the end of the day, it's not like we have any reason to doubt Saban.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 3:46 am to TD7
It got mentioned to me yesterday. Who knows. It’s not out of the question to think it because we look so bad. Now if Milroe comes back and the OL is magically better, maybe there is something to it.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 3:50 am to CrimsonBoz
For the 1st time I can honestly say Saban looks done. He looks like Spurrier did at the end. I mean this is 3 straight years he has praised our guys after dogshit performances with an “I’m Proud” quote…..mind you this is the same guy that went bezerk on our team in the Locker Room after winning the National Title vs Texas because we didn’t play to the standard. He is too old now and I guess doesn’t have the energy to micromanage like that anymore
I would not be shocked if he decides to retire after this season. I think he has too much pride to try and hold on like Bowden did.
I would not be shocked if he decides to retire after this season. I think he has too much pride to try and hold on like Bowden did.
This post was edited on 9/17/23 at 3:52 am
Posted on 9/17/23 at 4:04 am to mistaken4193
quote:More reminiscent of Stallings to me. When he defended Langham but later realized Langham had lied to him about signing with an agent. He retired after that. Here we have Saban who left the NFL because his coaching style didn’t work on paid pro athletes, now working with kids who have become paid pro athletes.
He looks like Spurrier did at the end.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 4:10 am to Bamadiver
Man, yall are so ready to give up on the greatest coach of all time after of a single outlier season, three games in.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 4:23 am to Fells
Where did I say that give up on him? As to this season itself, it’s been covered. Poor hires created the situation and a NFL QB forestalled the results until now. If anyone can correct it, it’s the goat, but it’s not going to happen in a single season.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 4:45 am to CrimsonBoz
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Now if Milroe comes back and the OL is magically better, maybe there is something to it.
Then my question would be, why wasnt that same offensive line good the first two times Milroe started. There is no division with the team, the offensive line just sucks.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 4:57 am to CrimsonBoz
Another thing that concerned me was when the sideline reporter for ESPN talked about how no players on the Bama sideline were trying to fire up or motivate their teammates.
I don’t think we have any leaders on this team. Couple that with Saban’s lack of fire and you get an apathetic performance like we saw today.
I don’t think we have any leaders on this team. Couple that with Saban’s lack of fire and you get an apathetic performance like we saw today.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 6:31 am to Roll Tide Ravens
Game has changed a lot in the last few years. NIL and the portal make it where you need to continue to recruit your team every week. Saban style was once he had you that’s it and he made players lives miserable. they had no choice but to suck it up and get better which a lot of them did. However now a lot of them will just hit the portal so it appears he is trying to change to a positive motivator but this isn’t his style and isn’t working. The coaching style that will be most successful now is a charismatic individual that inspires a team to win for some grand cause. Due to the coaches charisma the team mostly all buy in and give 120%. This approach can work but it’s not very repeatable. Right now most of our guys seem like they are just going through the motions. In the old days you could bench a bunch of them but now those guys hit the portal and your stuck with replacements now that you know will never cut it. Rock and hard place
This post was edited on 9/17/23 at 6:35 am
Posted on 9/17/23 at 7:05 am to Bamadiver
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More reminiscent of Stallings to me. When he defended Langham but later realized Langham had lied to him about signing with an agent. He retired after that.
Yeah...it didn't quite happen in that bang bang of an order. All of that shite went down in 1993. The very next year (1994) we were one point away from competing for another national championship and finished the season with a 12-1 record.
Stallings retired because he did not have a good working relationship with our AD (Bockrath) and university president (Sorensen). There was an incident in the locker room between Stallings and Bockrath after an upset loss to Mississippi State in 1996 and that's when Stallings decided he was done.
This post was edited on 9/17/23 at 7:05 am
Posted on 9/17/23 at 7:08 am to Bamafan18
When Proctor allowed the Texas DL to tee off on Milroe did he pick him up as well?
Every single time?
When they were letting Texas use him as a pinata was that because they were trying to sabotage Milroe as well?
Every single time?
When they were letting Texas use him as a pinata was that because they were trying to sabotage Milroe as well?
Posted on 9/17/23 at 7:10 am to YStar
Yeah they were pretty bad against texas but yesterday seemed worse somehow.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 7:14 am to harmonics
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Then my question would be, why wasnt that same offensive line good the first two times Milroe started.
It was much better against MTSU, which is a better team than USF. It was also better against Texas than against USF. As many of us discussed, Milroe broke clean pockets and sidestepped into pressure on multiple occasions against Texas. There weren't nearly as many plays where guys came totally unblocked. That seemed like every play against USF.
And offensive lines do decide not to block for players they dislike on occasion. I've heard them say as much. I'll always think something prompted them to do that in the 2005 Iron Bowl.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 7:20 am to CrimsonBoz
The center didn’t snap the ball in the dirt he just snapped it like a torpedo. This oline needs some of their asses put on the bench like McClellan was when he missed his block.
Posted on 9/17/23 at 7:39 am to Fells
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Man, yall are so ready to give up on the greatest coach of all time after of a single outlier season, three games in.
Which is so ironic because fans love calling players pussies, weak minded, etc..
Saban just made really bad hires. If he gets the hires right he is back to rolling.
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