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Big 12 and Pac 12 expansion
Posted on 7/30/23 at 7:27 am
Posted on 7/30/23 at 7:27 am
Who gives a shite
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Posted on 7/30/23 at 7:30 am to Harry Rex Vonner
K
Posted on 7/30/23 at 7:49 am to Harry Rex Vonner
We beat everyone regardless of what conference we’re in so I couldn’t care less either!
Posted on 7/30/23 at 7:57 am to Harry Rex Vonner
i only give a slight shite because teams like:
UCF
Houston
BYU
don't belong in a (former) power five conference.
Assuming Washington/Oregon move to big10 also, You could have had:
OreSt
Wash St
Stan
Cal
ASU
Arizona
Utah
Colo
Kan
KSU
Okst
Iowa St
TT
BAY
TCU
+one more
for a good lil league. Now you are going to have these mid tiers join and that will kill the big12 and pacLight even faster, just like the bigEast died after miami/vt left. They should have just merged. No one is going to tune into UCF vs Kansas.
It would have also been a great opportunity for Missouri or Nebraska to find their home again like Colorado did in the Big12, now that Texas is gone. Pretty sure that's the reason everyone gives for squirting out of the big12.
CSB portion:
We should actually go back to the power 7 leagues where regionality matters:
Big East
Big10
Big8
SWC
SEC
ACC
PAC
all with about 9-10 teams
UCF
Houston
BYU
don't belong in a (former) power five conference.
Assuming Washington/Oregon move to big10 also, You could have had:
OreSt
Wash St
Stan
Cal
ASU
Arizona
Utah
Colo
Kan
KSU
Okst
Iowa St
TT
BAY
TCU
+one more
for a good lil league. Now you are going to have these mid tiers join and that will kill the big12 and pacLight even faster, just like the bigEast died after miami/vt left. They should have just merged. No one is going to tune into UCF vs Kansas.
It would have also been a great opportunity for Missouri or Nebraska to find their home again like Colorado did in the Big12, now that Texas is gone. Pretty sure that's the reason everyone gives for squirting out of the big12.
CSB portion:
We should actually go back to the power 7 leagues where regionality matters:
Big East
Big10
Big8
SWC
SEC
ACC
PAC
all with about 9-10 teams
This post was edited on 7/30/23 at 8:04 am
Posted on 7/30/23 at 8:17 am to Harry Rex Vonner
To follow up with an actual opinion.
Which league is better in this scenario.
B12-
BYU, Arizona, Okie St, KSU, KU, TCU, TTU, Baylor, Houston, Colorado, Iowa St, WVU, UCinn, UCF
Or
PAC12- Oregon, OSU, Udub, Wazu, Cal, Stanford, AZU, Utes, SDSU, ColSU, Boise, Nevada
I would take the PAC12 any day over the B12
Which league is better in this scenario.
B12-
BYU, Arizona, Okie St, KSU, KU, TCU, TTU, Baylor, Houston, Colorado, Iowa St, WVU, UCinn, UCF
Or
PAC12- Oregon, OSU, Udub, Wazu, Cal, Stanford, AZU, Utes, SDSU, ColSU, Boise, Nevada
I would take the PAC12 any day over the B12
Posted on 7/30/23 at 8:20 am to dstone12
What does K State or Iowa St bring to the table over Houston or UCF?
Posted on 7/30/23 at 8:23 am to dstone12
+one more = Texas A&M?
Posted on 7/30/23 at 8:37 am to Harry Rex Vonner
I actually think the big 12 will be a competitive (amongst themselves) and fun league to watch. They’re still going to get blown out in a playoff game against a B1G or SEC team but it will be entertaining up until that point.
Posted on 7/30/23 at 8:42 am to BigB123
quote:
What does K State or Iowa St bring to the table over Houston or UCF
For one, regionality over UCF and Cinci.
Plus, KSU has somewhat of a history.
I want to be transparent and say that Houston has regionality and history too. But they lost out like SMU did.
I’m not right. It’s just my opinion that you would want to keep the continuity of the big12.
And yes, the big12 would be better off if Mizzy came back too. It’s more of a fit.
This post was edited on 7/30/23 at 8:44 am
Posted on 7/30/23 at 9:26 am to dstone12
BYU is among peers in the Big 12, which also has Baylor and TCU. Otherwise I agree that schools like UH, Cincy and UCF should never have been added.
Posted on 7/30/23 at 9:28 am to Captain Insano
Other than Ohio State, the Big 10 really isn’t better than the Big 12.
Posted on 7/30/23 at 10:23 am to dstone12
AZU, AZ St and Utah are going to jump to the Big 12. Those talks are already in the works.
PAC 12 will be down to 9 in five states in 2024. 6 three states sometime shortly after that once those three above leave.
Whatever the PAC 12 ends-up with in the end it will be a shell of its former self ... a lesser conference than the old Big East or Conf USA or the American Conference. They will probably not even be able to call themselves the PAC anylonger. Wouldn't surprise me to see them end-up with a USF and San Diego State, et al, type membership. Maybe a scrub from the state of Texas, etc.
PAC 12 will be down to 9 in five states in 2024. 6 three states sometime shortly after that once those three above leave.
Whatever the PAC 12 ends-up with in the end it will be a shell of its former self ... a lesser conference than the old Big East or Conf USA or the American Conference. They will probably not even be able to call themselves the PAC anylonger. Wouldn't surprise me to see them end-up with a USF and San Diego State, et al, type membership. Maybe a scrub from the state of Texas, etc.
Posted on 7/30/23 at 10:26 am to Harry Rex Vonner
Another horrible Harry Rex thread
Posted on 7/30/23 at 10:29 am to Harry Rex Vonner
I would give a shite if we could ship Arkansas, Mizzou and A&M back to Big 12
Posted on 7/30/23 at 11:02 am to Harry Rex Vonner
Arkansas will give a shite when they visit Stillwater, Cincinnati, and Manhattan Ks and take home the big L.
Posted on 7/30/23 at 11:18 am to Jack Daniel
quote:
Arkansas
Keep Arkansas
Keep Texas
Keep Oklahoma
This post was edited on 7/30/23 at 11:19 am
Posted on 7/30/23 at 11:23 am to 3rddownonthe8
quote:
To follow up with an actual opinion.
Which league is better in this scenario.
B12-
BYU, Arizona, Okie St, KSU, KU, TCU, TTU, Baylor, Houston, Colorado, Iowa St, WVU, UCinn, UCF
Or
PAC12- Oregon, OSU, Udub, Wazu, Cal, Stanford, AZU, Utes, SDSU, ColSU, Boise, Nevada
I would take the PAC12 any day over the B12
That is dumb. The Pac will soon be no more and the Big 12 will take from it what it wants. Their commissioner is trying to borrow time but everyone knows he is dealing a fake deck of cards. The Pac is done. Long live the Big 12.
Posted on 7/30/23 at 12:05 pm to ucbearcats
you realize you are a G6 now ? right? when the SEC, B10, ACC, & ND schedule another Autonomous meeting, you know you won't be invited? you do understand that?
BYU is the biggest brand in the B12 now... think about that!
BYU is the biggest brand in the B12 now... think about that!
Posted on 7/30/23 at 12:24 pm to ucbearcats
quote:
That is dumb. The Pac will soon be no more and the Big 12 will take from it what it wants. Their commissioner is trying to borrow time but everyone knows he is dealing a fake deck of cards. The Pac is done. Long live the Big 12.
When the big12 has to add UCF and Cinci, it’s on borrowed time as well.
Posted on 7/30/23 at 12:34 pm to ucbearcats
in 2022, the B12 (13) teams as constituted for 2024 11M viewers weekly.
Oregon, Washington, Wazu, Org St, and Utah avg 7.5 M on their on.
Oregon, Washington, Wazu, Org St, and Utah avg 7.5 M on their on.
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