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re: SEC coaches records vs final AP top 25 teams

Posted on 7/6/23 at 11:35 am to
Posted by DuckTalesLOL
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Posted on 7/6/23 at 11:35 am to
That's pretty dumb logic IMO.

So weeks 1-12 don't matter then?
Posted by FireDanMullen
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Posted on 7/6/23 at 11:42 am to
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That's pretty dumb logic IMO. So weeks 1-12 don't matter then?


Preseason rankings determine a lot of things and they are usually very wrong. A team that starts out #25 can sometimes be #8 by week 4 and then the real season starts and they lose multiple games. There’s also almost always a top 10 team preseason that is completely off the wall and don’t finish ranked. (A&M in 2022, LSU in 2020, etc)

So yeah end of year matters way more.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 7/6/23 at 12:43 pm to
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That's pretty dumb logic IMO.

Not when you look at it this way.

Weeks 1-12 ALL matter.

If you play a team in week 3, why shouldn't 4-12 matter?

End of season has all weeks matter equally.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 7/6/23 at 12:57 pm to
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That's pretty dumb logic IMO.

So weeks 1-12 don't matter then?



All weeks matter... but not where the team was ranked at that time... only where they finish in the rankings.

Think about it this way. If UGA beat South Carolina and Notre Dame beat South Carolina... they beat the same opponent.

But if SC was unranked when UGA beat them and ranked in the top 25 when Notre Dame beat them, why should one win count as a top 25 win and the other not given that the two beat the exact same opponent?

Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 7/6/23 at 1:09 pm to
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That's pretty dumb logic IMO.


No it isn’t. Teams that are ranked during the early part of the season are incorrectly ranked, and the entire body of a season will prove or disprove that. This is why they CFP doesn’t begin ranking teams until closer to the end.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/6/23 at 1:11 pm to
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So weeks 1-12 don't matter then?


They all matter. Got to wait until all are played to know good a team is
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 7/6/23 at 3:02 pm to
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So weeks 1-12 don't matter then?



Let's all congratulate Appy State on beating a top-10 aTm, team last year. Sure, they finished the season 2-6 in conference and 5-7 overall...but those week 2 rankings are really important and something to hang your hat on.

I won't say that weeks 1-12 don't matter...but the rankings in weeks 1-6 are pretty much a crap shoot on accuracy. There just isn't enough data to make an accurate assessment.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 7/6/23 at 10:05 pm to
quote:

That's pretty dumb logic IMO.

So weeks 1-12 don't matter then?


Tell me you don't understand without saying you don't understand.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
59029 posts
Posted on 7/7/23 at 7:38 am to
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That's pretty dumb logic IMO.

So weeks 1-12 don't matter then?


Of course they matter. They are a part of what goes in to determining if they are a top 25 team. You go 12-0 and lose in the SECCG and playoffs, and you will still be a top 25 team. You go 0-12 and nothing will make you a top 25 team.

Am I missing your point?
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