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re: Pollack ran his mouth to Saban at NC title game, gets fired 6 months later. Coincidence?

Posted on 7/4/23 at 3:18 pm to
Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 7/4/23 at 3:18 pm to
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We could better speculate about 2018 if there had been a second game.


Divisional teams in the NFL play each other twice every year with different results. Again, you deal in “if” and hypotheticals. I deal in reality. You quote ESPN dorks. I quote the greatest coach of all time. I stated you lost to LSU in 2011 with a healthy team and then beat them in a rematch with an injured team and you stated “we outplayed them both games” wtf kind of rebuttal is that? Someone here is legit. And someone isn’t and is inherently biased.
This post was edited on 7/4/23 at 3:22 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/4/23 at 3:19 pm to




What a joke.
This post was edited on 7/4/23 at 3:24 pm
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
2545 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 3:21 pm to
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Here’s the thing though - what is the metric system for evaluating injuries?


We can look at a game where those people weren't injured and look at a following game when they were injured.

I've never said their NC wasn't legit.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
59046 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 3:27 pm to
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We can look at a game where those people weren't injured and look at a following game when they were injured.



Since games always play out exactly the same every time I guess we can give LSU the title in 2011, right?

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I've never said their NC wasn't legit.


Because you don't want to be laughed off the board.
Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
2891 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 3:31 pm to
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We can look at a game where those people weren't injured and look at a following game when they were injured. I've never said their NC wasn't legit.


So do we do that in the NFL when the giants beat the eagles in week 4 and then lose in week 7 with some injuries? Do we then use a metric system stating the Giants are still better because they won week 4 with healthy players and lost week 7 with a less healthy team?

Please, answer that question for me.
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
2545 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 3:36 pm to
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Was that the guy that Alabama got to transfer there?


I mistakenly added a 2. It was 1 career tackle. I don't remember his name but using a guy with 1 tackle in his career is funny.
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Sure he was.


One of your own posters was saying how he was kicked off the team as soon as the charges came to light. But, if you need a rapist to bolster your argument...

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I gave you the list. Read it, or get someone else to read it to you.


You gave me a list of back-up players, with the exception of 2 starters, who had little significant contribution to the team.
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
2545 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 3:37 pm to
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My superior debating and prose wins. I make points. You make excuses.


Your points have been refuted.
Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
2891 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 3:39 pm to
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We could speculate about 2018 if there had been a second game


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So do we do that in the NFL when the giants beat the eagles in week 4 and then lose in week 7 with some injuries? Do we then use a metric system stating the Giants are still better because they won week 4 with healthy players and lost week 7 with a less healthy team? Please, answer that question for me.


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Your points have been refuted


How so if you can’t even answer this simple question I’ve stated above?
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
2545 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 3:40 pm to
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Divisional teams in the NFL play each other twice every year with different results.


Which is irrelevant o the 2 Bama/Georgia games.

Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
2891 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 3:42 pm to
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Your points have been refuted.


So, your thesis states that Bama beat UGA in 2021 with a healthy team and lost the rematch with injuries. So Bama is still the better overall team.

In the NFL, divisional teams play each other twice a year. Every year, teams go 1-1 in those 2 matchups. By your rational, if the Giants beat the Eagles in week 4 with an overall healthy team and lose to them in week 7 with some injuries, there is an asterisk and the Giants should still be anointed as the better team? That is your opinion, yes or no?
Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
2891 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 3:43 pm to
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Which is irrelevant o the 2 Bama/Georgia games.


How? You’re using the variable of injuries as why Bama is better. Why does it not apply to other teams who have injuries? If injuries is the only variable applied then why can’t that same variable be applied to other teams? It only is applicable to the vacuum scenario of Georgia v Bama? Lol what?
This post was edited on 7/4/23 at 3:45 pm
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
2545 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 3:46 pm to
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Since games always play out exactly the same every time I guess we can give LSU the title in 2011, right?



Bama outplayed LSU in both games.
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
2545 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 3:48 pm to
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So do we do that in the NFL when the giants beat the eagles in week 4 and then lose in week 7 with some injuries?


We could just take the actual Bama/Georgia games and discuss them instead of using other team, leagues, etc.
Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
2891 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 3:49 pm to
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We could just take the actual Bama/Georgia games and discuss them instead of using other team, leagues, etc.


But you’ve stated the variable of injuries is the only difference. Bama is a superior team by your logic due to winning when healthy. Correct?
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
2545 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 3:58 pm to
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How so if you can’t even answer this simple question I’ve stated above?



The questions are nonsensical. We have both Bama/Georgia games to discuss and you keep harping about some NFL teams/games. I don't know anything about those teams. It wouldn't matter if I did since the dynamics are different.
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
2545 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 4:02 pm to
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But you’ve stated the variable of injuries is the only difference. Bama is a superior team by your logic due to winning when healthy. Correct?


The margin of victory in the first game when the injuries were comparable vs the closeness of the second game when the injuries were disparate.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
59046 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 4:07 pm to
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I mistakenly added a 2. It was 1 career tackle. I don't remember his name but using a guy with 1 tackle in his career is funny.


He would have had more if he had not been injured. he was slotted to play a whole lot more. However, if you want to second guess Saban's talent evals be my guess. He is the guy transferring to your school.

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One of your own posters was saying how he was kicked off the team as soon as the charges came to light. But, if you need a rapist to bolster your argument...
I can't help what another poster said and how he was wrong.

However, I have seen several Alabama posters say that Georgia would have won anyway and injuries are no excuse. yet. Here we are.

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You gave me a list of back-up players, with the exception of 2 starters, who had little significant contribution to the team.


No I didn't. Just goes to show you what you know of our roster. Besides, there was a nonstarter or two on the list, but our two deep always gets lots of reps. That is probably why our second stringers and walk ons kicked your rear ends. Our players were ready and yours were not. That's a coaching problem.
Posted by Knowshon5Dolla
Atlanta
Member since Oct 2021
1441 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 4:09 pm to
I have no idea if it's just a few, most, or all Alabama fans who continue to whine about the 33-18 loss. Those who do are sullying the reputation of college football's best team. You're not winning anything by continuing to throw a temper tantrum over losing. It's a loss on top of a loss.
What interesting to me is that typically, that kind of loss would have inspired Alabama. Saban would have recruited harder. The players would have worked harder. Instead, Alabama lost to Tennessee and 4-loss LSU.
Both of them lost to Georgia, by the way.
But I'm sure you've got excuses for that, too.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
59046 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 4:10 pm to
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Bama outplayed LSU in both games.


And yet went .500 in them. Maybe with more stats and team can still lose the game?

So, to get this straight....LSU should have been awarded the tile in 2011 since they won the first game? They already proved it in the first game and we all know what happens in the first game is always what happens in the second game.
Posted by Othello
the Neptonian Steel Mines
Member since Aug 2013
22971 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 4:10 pm to
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And “if” Bama didn’t have Jalen Hurts in the 2018 SEC championship game they likely loose when Tua goes down.



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