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re: Seeing a bunch of spring football threads. Are you happy with your team so far?
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:59 am to Wiggle
Posted on 5/26/23 at 9:59 am to Wiggle
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Great, another thread that UGA fans made about them.
All college football threads are about UGA.
We're the defending back to back national champions. It's to be expected.
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Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:09 am to djsdawg
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UGA finished the half by putting points on the board.
A red zone FG. Because they were stopped. In every game they could, they ran up the score padding stats.
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That is a VERY successful drive
3 vs 7. I guess in UGA parlance any points are good points.
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Be thankful the dwindling clock forced UGA to kick a FG on 3rd down.
Clock or downs? The fact UGA was scared of not atleast getting something speaks volumes in that situation. Remember Kirby didn’t know the end results yet. A dominant team easily moving the ball goes for 6 on the 2 going against the half. And why not? The Vols are not going 98 yards in 2 seconds. Why kick a FG if it’s over at that point like you are pretending? SPOILER: because Kirby couldn’t get 6 and was afraid of getting 0.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:10 am to DawginSC
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All college football threads are about UGA
Just when the village idiot DJ in incapable of understanding simple concepts.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:18 am to djsdawg
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Only 3 in 2022 is pretty bad. Awful development and utilization
That season ending injury might of played a role. Fortunately, Heupel is actually capable of coaching up the Offensive and was able to recruit well enough to not only absorb the losses from graduation and the draft but improve production from the WRs. When Monken was faced with an injury we learned 2 of the 5* TEs were non factors, and UGA had missed on way too many WRs. Fortunately they were able to field an elite front 7 2 years in a row so it didn’t bite them in the arse like usual.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:21 am to koreandawg
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BTW: Bennett's career vs. Tennessee
Tennessee has had a historically bad defense. Now compare Bennetts yards per game, completion %, TDs to INTs, for his time at UGA to Hookers time at Tennessee.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:32 am to Smokeyone
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Clock or downs?
Umm... UGA kicked the FG at the end of the half on 3rd down. So it's pretty obvious it was clock.
If UGA had second and goal from the 2 without clock considerations, they'd probably run the ball feeling comfortable about getting 2 yards in 3 tries in that scenario. Even if they didn't make it, UT would be on their own 1 yard line and UGA could have gotten defensive points in that scenario.
Since they had 2nd and goal with 7 seconds left, they ran a pass play, then took a FG on 3rd down because they were out of time. UT was going to receive a kickoff regardless of what UGA did since it was at the end of the half, so UGA wouldn't have UT pinned if they failed like they would have if clock weren't an issue.
Clock was absolutely the reason UGA took the FG.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 10:48 am to DawginSC
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Umm... UGA kicked the FG at the end of the half on 3rd down. So it's pretty obvious it was clock.
Slick bold underlined 3rd down, hence the question. Yet another teachable moment for DJ if he is capable of seeing it. But the half stops when the play is over (added for DJs benefit) so why not put a dagger in from the 2 yard line? Surely with a Heisman finalist running an AirRaid O and a stable of NFL caliber backs Monken couldn’t run a 2 yard play?
Posted on 5/26/23 at 11:20 am to Smokeyone
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Slick bold underlined 3rd down, hence the question. Yet another teachable moment for DJ if he is capable of seeing it. But the half stops when the play is over (added for DJs benefit) so why not put a dagger in from the 2 yard line? Surely with a Heisman finalist running an AirRaid O and a stable of NFL caliber backs Monken couldn’t run a 2 yard play?
Because of the fact it's the end of the half. It changes the math.
When time is not a concern, going for the TD from the 2 means that if you fail, the other team has to start from their own 2. When you are very good on both sides of the ball (like UGA), it makes going for the TD a more reasonable play call. Because even if you fail, the other team is pinned on their own side of the field to start their drive, which often leads to mistakes that could be a safety or a turnover against a stout defense that is putting pressure on the QB.
But when it's at the end of the half, the result of the play doesn't matter. The team who will receive the kickoff in the second half always receives the kickoff in the second half (in this case Tennessee).
That makes trying for the TD less enticing because failure will always result in the same starting position on the following drive for UT as success would.
This is why regardless of how dominant the team on offense is in that scenario, you take the points. It's not the same scenario as not being at the end of the half.
Your argument here is pretty stupid. UGA was stopped by the clock. You don't kick a FG on 3rd down if clock isnt' an issue and even if it were on 4th down, there is a difference in the decision if failure is followed by a kickoff vs a turnover on downs.
If it were reversed and UT had the ball on their own 30 yard line with 2 seconds to go and being beaten badly, being at the end of the half makes a hail mary more likely than a punt for the same reason. Why? Because field position doesn't matter at the end of the half (though you still worry about a turnover).
I know you think you've got a "gotcha" here, but what you're doing is making yourself seem kind of dumb.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 11:40 am to Smokeyone
Even though you're a Vol fan and we're mortal enemies, I STILL have thought you were a poster on here with high football IQ. If you are actually trying to say that game was 'close', then uh, I was wrong about you. We mopped the floor with the Vols and even my most diehard Vol fan friends will admit it.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 6:56 pm to Smokeyone
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A red zone FG. Because they were stopped.
In the first half, The vols were doing a bad job of stopping uga from consistently moving the ball downfield into the end zone.
If we needed a TD, we would have had 2 more plays to gain 2 yards.
Even you got to love the odds of uga scoring in that situation.
Posted on 5/26/23 at 6:58 pm to Smokeyone
Still waiting lil Smokey, what your score prediction for UGA-Tenn this season??
Posted on 5/26/23 at 7:18 pm to DrewDawg13
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Still waiting lil Smokey, what your score prediction for UGA-Tenn this season??
Again, let’s see a game or two from both before we start making score projections
Posted on 5/26/23 at 8:36 pm to Smokeyone
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guess in UGA parlance any points are good points.
Points are good.
Possession is good.
Yards are good.
First downs are good.
That drive was NOT good for your defense.
Posted on 5/27/23 at 12:35 am to Smokeyone
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Tennessee has had a historically bad defense. Now compare Bennetts yards per game, completion %, TDs to INTs, for his time at UGA to Hookers time at Tennessee.
Both played five ranked teams in the final poll in 2021
Hooker vs. ranked teams in the final poll in 2021:
(1-4 record)
stats: 90 of 132, 1263 yards, 11 tds, 3 ints
Stetson (4-1 record)
stats: 87 of 135, 1199 yards, 11 tds, 2 ints. Much bigger stages.
Big difference.
2022? I don't think you want to go there, but we'll do it.
Hooker (5 games, 3-2 record): 113 of 174 (65%), 1391 yards, 12 tds, 2 ints.
Stet (7 games, 7-0 record): 147 of 204 (72%), 2174 yards, 19 tds, 4 ints.
Even bigger difference here in the big games in Hendon's "Heisman" year, not the stat padding games.
And 6 of the 12 for Stet had championships on the line. He lost one of those.
Your offense and your coach love to pad it on when the game is over. And you are still running up to the line like you're trying to score just before half when it's 42-10 in the third quarter.
Also, your offense gets your WRs wide open. On one of the draft shows, Hyatt had the most wide open catches by a landslide of WRs they had projected to go in the first three rounds. Good on Heupel, easy on Hooker on those plays.
Myth: Hooker was waaaay better than Bennett.
Reality. Stetson played as well or better in the big games.
Stetson played extremely well against Hooker's own team. (Weird that UT can't admit this. I get the Tide and Gator fans, because he did not play his best against them. But against Tennessee? He was great every time. It was actually the Tennessee game in 2021 where Kirby said he was finally convinced that Stetson was better than JT.)
Hooker is only months shy of Stetson's age, despite Stetson's age being an issue even for UT fans.
Stetson went one round and 60 picks after Hooker. But historically speaking, once you're out of round two, not much difference in making it in the NFL as a starter. Both guys are dart throws and drafted to be backups with slight hope of upside to be more.
This post was edited on 5/27/23 at 12:59 am
Posted on 5/27/23 at 7:24 am to Smokeyone
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Again, let’s see a game or two from both before we start making score projections
Again dodging the question.
You claim that UGA is not any good, our offense is pedestrian, our WR's suck, our QB is no good, etc.
You also claim that Tennessee is amazing and Hupel is a genius.
So either you know you're full of shite, or you are just a pussy. So which is it??
What is your score prediction for the UGA-TENN game??
Posted on 5/27/23 at 7:45 am to DrewDawg13
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Again dodging the question.
You claim that UGA is not any good, our offense is pedestrian, our WR's suck, our QB is no good, etc.
You also claim that Tennessee is amazing and Hupel is a genius.
So either you know you're full of shite, or you are just a pussy. So which is it??
What is your score prediction for the UGA-TENN game??
Not only that, he even back up the crazy assertion that we don't develop TEs to their potential.
Posted on 5/27/23 at 9:41 am to Smokeyone
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Clock or downs?
Simply asking this question is a bad look for you.
Posted on 5/27/23 at 10:22 am to djsdawg
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Simply asking this question is a bad look for you.
Did you not see your post that prompted the opportunity for you to clarify?
Posted on 5/27/23 at 10:41 am to Smokeyone
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Did you not see your post that prompted the opportunity for you to clarify?
The point I made was simple, clear, obvious, and irrefutable, so can you explain what about it still confuses you?
Posted on 5/27/23 at 11:07 am to djsdawg
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The point I made was simple, clear, obvious, and irrefutable
Maybe to you. But those of us that live outside your head it was very vague and showed a fundamental lack of understanding of the subject matter at hand. Hence I began with the most obvious point you needed to clarify (read walk back) in the clock vs downs. And proceeded to question the rest of the statement.
I’m just providing you another opportunity to move the flag/goalposts to a position you feel comfortable with.
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