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re: Predict the first moment once Texas joins when they find out, They are not special,
Posted on 2/17/23 at 9:32 am to PerrillouxToTexas
Posted on 2/17/23 at 9:32 am to PerrillouxToTexas
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Why are you blaming Texas instead of Nebraska?
Surely Texas is a good enough university to teach the concept of "cause and effect." I don't blame Nebraska one bit. By the time they chose B1G the Texas attitude had already festered into the cancer that EVERYONE ON EARTH can clearly see today. You and others here are just burnt orange tumors. I fear at this point the cancer is inoperable.
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Posted on 2/17/23 at 9:36 am to PerrillouxToTexas
quote:The same reason everybody blames Texas for coming to the SEC and doesn't say anything to Oklahoma
Why are you blaming Texas instead of Nebraska?
Posted on 2/17/23 at 9:48 am to Earl Nobis
I am sorry but you really do not know what you are talking about. It is a nice nice long diatribe with a lot of wrong information.
Chokelahoma and teasip were making just as much as A&M was under the agreement. A&M left because the donghorns were going to move forward with having their own private tv network instead of making a Big 12 network. Yet another example of their arrogance and their self-perceived elitism. The schools that were left in the Big 12 had no choice but to stick with the Big 12.
A&M was invited to join the SEC twice. They turned down the first offer in 2010 thinking maybe teasip had changed and was actually going to make things work in the Big12. Then 'sip announced the new donghorn network was going to happen. They thought they were going to use it as a recruiting tool by showing high school games of the players they were going to recruit. After the network announcement, the SEC contacted A&M again and said the invitation was still open and A&M jumped on it.
Colorado and Nebraska left because teasip wanted to revise the way the money was being allocated in the conference. Neither of them were real happy about the formation of the Big 12 anyway. They both came onboard thinking they were going to rule the conference in football. The old SWC teams turned out to be tougher than they thought.
Mizzou left for the exact same reasons as A&M.
Sorry Earl but these are the facts.
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They did so after agreeing to stay and accepting the offer of more money from the conference: an offer that Texas and OU declined to accept because they didn't want to punish the other schools who stayed.
Chokelahoma and teasip were making just as much as A&M was under the agreement. A&M left because the donghorns were going to move forward with having their own private tv network instead of making a Big 12 network. Yet another example of their arrogance and their self-perceived elitism. The schools that were left in the Big 12 had no choice but to stick with the Big 12.
A&M was invited to join the SEC twice. They turned down the first offer in 2010 thinking maybe teasip had changed and was actually going to make things work in the Big12. Then 'sip announced the new donghorn network was going to happen. They thought they were going to use it as a recruiting tool by showing high school games of the players they were going to recruit. After the network announcement, the SEC contacted A&M again and said the invitation was still open and A&M jumped on it.
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I think Missouri left for what they saw as greener pastures. I don't think they had any particular grudge or fear of Texas.
Colorado jumped because, as the realignment started, speculation was that they would have trouble finding a landing spot. Again, not fear and dread of evil Texas.
Colorado and Nebraska left because teasip wanted to revise the way the money was being allocated in the conference. Neither of them were real happy about the formation of the Big 12 anyway. They both came onboard thinking they were going to rule the conference in football. The old SWC teams turned out to be tougher than they thought.
Mizzou left for the exact same reasons as A&M.
Sorry Earl but these are the facts.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 9:55 am to Buster83
quote:It is always hilarious watching you try to make some serious point while using these knee-slapper nicknames every time you mention us or Oklahoma
Chokelahoma and teasip were making just as much as A&M was under the agreement. A&M left because the donghorns were going to move forward with having their own private tv network instead of making a Big 12 network. Yet another example of their arrogance and their self-perceived elitism. The schools that were left in the Big 12 had no choice but to stick with the Big 12.
But yea, y'all tooooootally don't have an inferiority complex or anything.
In b4 you post the same photos you always do due to lack of a credible response
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:32 am to Buster83
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Colorado and Nebraska left because teasip wanted to revise the way the money was being allocated in the conference.
Source? I have never heard this anywhere. Texas, Oklahoma, Nebraska, and Texas A&M were all "haves" in the Big 12 and voted as a block on financial issues.
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Neither of them were real happy about the formation of the Big 12 anyway.
This is true and that applies to all founding Big 12 members except Baylor and Texas Tech, who were about to be left out in the cold before Anne Richards and Bob Bullock got involved after the SWC died.
It was a conference built on sand, which is how we got to where we are today.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 12:04 pm to PerrillouxToTexas
We got to where we are because you morons lied to everyone and tried to sneak away to the PAC 12
and Aggie along with Mizzou found out and gave you the middle finger as the SEC gave us a better opportunity
You can’t stand the simple truth
and Aggie along with Mizzou found out and gave you the middle finger as the SEC gave us a better opportunity
You can’t stand the simple truth
Posted on 2/17/23 at 12:09 pm to Old Sarge
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We got to where we are because you morons lied to everyone and tried to sneak away to the PAC 12
And why did we do that? Because Nebraska pussied out and went to the B1G. Big 12 was a dead man walking at that point. You think we would've looked at the PAC had Nebraska not done that? After a season in which we won the conference and played in the title game?
But everyone loves to blame big bad Texas.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 12:13 pm to PerrillouxToTexas
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And why did we do that? Because Nebraska pussied out and went to the B1G. Big 12 was a dead man walking at that point.
Bull crap
The big 12 was solid and would have been fine, it was you guys pining for the West coast that did it in
And I say “you guys” but I’ll be fair to you, the average texas ex’s that I know didn’t like the idea
But Deloss Dodds was absolutely obsessed with the pac 12 and was determined to do it.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 12:20 pm to Old Sarge
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you guys pining for the West coast
So it's our responsibility to keep the conference afloat? Says the fan of the school who left 10 years before us?
Anyway, that's exactly my point: Big 12 was a marriage of convenience and not anyone's first choice. Big 8 power players hated the idea of the Big 12. Texas and Texas A&M both wanted to go to either the SEC or PAC.
In the end, everyone got what they wanted. Schools who had no better options found a permanent home in the Big 12. The bigger schools eventually ended up where they wanted. You're welcome.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 12:24 pm to Earl Nobis
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Colorado jumped because, as the realignment started, speculation was that they would have trouble finding a landing spot. Again, not fear and dread of evil Texas.
That deal was made, long before it happened.
While Nebraska to the B1G and CU to the PAC seemed to happen out of the blue, the deal was already made between the two of them to break the B12 because the product had gotten better and the B1G and PAC were falling behind. They both took a school as cover that they were working together.
Like or not, if not for the B1G getting greedy, we probably don't have any of this realignment at all.
As for Utx and TAMU, as the observer both inside and out over a long time they are like a married couple that need to divorce.
Husband says the wife is a bitch
Wife says the husband is a bastard
The truth is probably somewhere in the middle but putting all the blame on the other side is easier and useful in trying to capture the shared friends they had when they were married.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 12:28 pm to PerrillouxToTexas
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You're welcome.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 12:34 pm to PerrillouxToTexas
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Nebraska announced their move in June 2010.
The plan to break up the B12 started before the Blair Report leaked (and that was in 2009?) and occurred at a golf game between the B1G and PAC in CA when they were there for the Rose Bowl.
What most miss, if the B1G minds their own business, there is no realignment. All this really started with the B1G wanting to force Notre Dame to join them (with a pair) so they could get to 12 and try and reagin some of the monopoly power there shared with the PAC in the Beyers Era (roughly 3 decades of a monopoly).
Posted on 2/17/23 at 12:41 pm to PerrillouxToTexas
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Anyway, that's exactly my point: Big 12 was a marriage of convenience and not anyone's first choice. Big 8 power players hated the idea of the Big 12. Texas and Texas A&M both wanted to go to either the SEC or PAC.
You are like the parable of the blind men and the elephant. You see part but seem to refuse to see the whole.
This war has been going on for at least 30 - 40 years (or more) and it has nothing to do with the Big 8 or SWC. They both got played and seem still unable to understand they they were divided and conquered.
If you have ever seen the original "Godfather" it is when the Don teaches Micheal that "Tatagglia was a pimp" and it was Bardzini who was the real person encouraging the4 war. Is "The Prince" no longer required for kids in school any more?
Posted on 2/17/23 at 1:09 pm to SpurandBlue
Lol…they never will. They are totally infected, since most of their fans are T-shirt fans only, with that belief. They are the most self entitled egotistical fan base in college sports. Read Burnt Orange Nation after any Texas loss. There’s a reason they are known as the “Rabid Weasels” in Texas. They will start tearing into their own kind after a loss in addition to their own coaches, players, refs, opposing teams or fans doesn’t matter.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 1:16 pm to Jster15
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They are the most self entitled egotistical fan base in college sports.
I will give you Top 5, and probably Top 3 but #1 is Ohio State
Posted on 2/17/23 at 1:36 pm to Cheese Grits
You’re probably right…but I live in Texas…have lots of friends in Louisiana and Mississippi…we don’t run across many OSU folks.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 1:56 pm to PerrillouxToTexas
While the Longhorns certainly arent 100% innocent like much of yall's fanbase likes to portray, I will admit this is one area that even as an A&M fan, I dont think we can assign all of the blame to. The Longhorn network and several of those dealings certainly were big reasons A&M left for greener pastures... However, I do agree with yall that the Big 12 wasnt really set up to succeed from the get-go. It was always on borrowed time with how they shoehorned in Tech and Baylor and set the revenue sharing system up.
As mentioned, A&M had actually looked at the SEC before 2011 when we jumped ship. Longhorns had looked west, many schools had eyed other conferences. It was only a matter of time.
As mentioned, A&M had actually looked at the SEC before 2011 when we jumped ship. Longhorns had looked west, many schools had eyed other conferences. It was only a matter of time.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 2:12 pm to XWing atAliciousness
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It is always hilarious watching you try to make some serious point while using these knee-slapper nicknames every time you mention us or Oklahoma
But yea, y'all tooooootally don't have an inferiority complex or anything.
In b4 you post the same photos you always do due to lack of a credible response
And you don't deny anything I said because you know it is all true. It speaks to what great conference mates y'all will turn out to be. Glad you think those nicknames are so funny. I will continue to use them.
Not sure how y'all are going to be able to handle being treated like you are everyone else. Can y'all handle sharing the revenue equally among all your conference mates. That has never happened to you before.
The most of the nutless bovine worshipers have a superiority complex and a lot of them don't even realize it. Nobody on this board screams it louder than xwing/pickledoc/mackdaddy or whatever his current alter is. He constantly makes the comment about how he got into a school that you were not smart enough to. It just screams that he thinks he is smarter than everyone else on this board. In reality, he may not be has smart as my dog. She is pretty smart and a lot more likeable.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 2:33 pm to Buster83
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xwing/pickledoc/mackdaddy
I still say he/she is 13 years old, 99% of what the kid posts is synonymous with “I know what you are but what am I”
It’s like rationalizing with a retarded pee wee Herman in burnt orange
Posted on 2/17/23 at 2:44 pm to Jster15
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we don’t run across many OSU folks.
Be thankful for that!
The Water Buffalo have been migrating across the Ohio Ocean the past 20 - 40 years as they crapped up their own state years ago.
They have good fans, just like finding a needle in a haystack or unicorn.
Pretty rare.
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