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Piggybacking off of internet speculation....
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:39 am
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:39 am
...more specifically, speculation from individuals working for DawgPost, how long does Kirby go?
Kirby made a comment that stood out to me after the championship game as he was interviewed: he apologized to his wife for not being as good as a husband or father as he felt he should be, due to his involvement in developing kids within the program.
This post isn't to speculate about problems between he and his wife (most likely, it was just Kirby's way of acknowledging the sacrifices they all make to help him be the best coach he can be) or whether or not he's done in his career, but it did get me to thinking after listening to the Dawg Post guys do some light speculation on the length of Kirby's tenure.
That's what I want to do here. Do you think Kirby has some specific goals, or number of years that will dictate the length of his tenure? Will he, perhaps, have a (relatively) short tenure and, perhaps, accept a role within the organization as AD?
The meat and potatos of this, for me, is:
Do you think Kirby has a plan of succession in place? Specifically, the Valdosta boy Glen Schumann? Schumann has been with Kirby since 2008. While there has always been speculation that people are after Glen, he hasn't left. He is now Co-DC with Muschamp, and has seemed content to be groomed under Kirby's learning tree.
I could see Kirby bringing him along, further establishing the program, accepting a less demanding position, installing Schumann, and allowing the kid to build off of his foundation.
Waaaay to early thread, perhaps but, hey, it's the "offseason".
I'm curious of everyone else's speculation with regards to the future.
I'll hang up and listen.
Kirby made a comment that stood out to me after the championship game as he was interviewed: he apologized to his wife for not being as good as a husband or father as he felt he should be, due to his involvement in developing kids within the program.
This post isn't to speculate about problems between he and his wife (most likely, it was just Kirby's way of acknowledging the sacrifices they all make to help him be the best coach he can be) or whether or not he's done in his career, but it did get me to thinking after listening to the Dawg Post guys do some light speculation on the length of Kirby's tenure.
That's what I want to do here. Do you think Kirby has some specific goals, or number of years that will dictate the length of his tenure? Will he, perhaps, have a (relatively) short tenure and, perhaps, accept a role within the organization as AD?
The meat and potatos of this, for me, is:
Do you think Kirby has a plan of succession in place? Specifically, the Valdosta boy Glen Schumann? Schumann has been with Kirby since 2008. While there has always been speculation that people are after Glen, he hasn't left. He is now Co-DC with Muschamp, and has seemed content to be groomed under Kirby's learning tree.
I could see Kirby bringing him along, further establishing the program, accepting a less demanding position, installing Schumann, and allowing the kid to build off of his foundation.
Waaaay to early thread, perhaps but, hey, it's the "offseason".
I'm curious of everyone else's speculation with regards to the future.
I'll hang up and listen.
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Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:49 am to Cheer
Less than ten.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:52 am to Cheer
Definitely not as long as Saban, but we'd be foolish to think he'd burn everything to the ground in his personal life for the sake of a football legacy.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:53 am to Porter Osborne Jr
Unfortunately I think you’re right. I don’t know how anyone could keep up the pace that he does. It can’t be healthy.
Now…what I’d like to see is him figure out a way to bring up some subordinates to do things his way to take some of the load off and let him focus just on what he enjoys doing. If he does that he could probably go longer.
Now…what I’d like to see is him figure out a way to bring up some subordinates to do things his way to take some of the load off and let him focus just on what he enjoys doing. If he does that he could probably go longer.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:56 am to Cheer
If he was planning on quitting, the last thing he'd do is project it to the world. I think people are making too much out of this. Will he coach until he's 70? Probably not.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 11:57 am to SquatchDawg
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Now…what I’d like to see is him figure out a way to bring up some subordinates to do things his way to take some of the load off and let him focus just on what he enjoys doing. If he does that he could probably go longer.
This was my speculation. Shumann was the first cat that he brought with him from Alabama. Kid started there with Kirby in 08 as a GA. There were Alabama people that weren't happy to see him go. So Schu has been with Kirby, now, for 15 years. 15. Given that my gut tells me that Kirby probably won't be a "lifer" as a HBC, and Schu has been with him, like a loyal soldier, the whole way, my gut is also telling me that there may be some kind of succession plan in place for the kid.
Pure fricking speculation, though.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:03 pm to deeprig9
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I think people are making too much out of this.
I just think that the guys over on DawgPost are probably just being realists: the CFB game has changed in recent years. We've seen Matt Luke walk away, heard Kirby talk about the level of commitment it takes, not just for him, but the entire staff, to get a program to operate at the highest level, and now seen him acknowledge the sacrifices that his family makes to support him in all of this on the most public of stages.
Do I think Kirby is close to being done? No.
Is it worth speculating over, as fans? Probably not.
Is it "offseason"? Yes it is.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:06 pm to Cheer
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Piggybacking off of internet speculation..
Is really unwise when it comes to something as serious as this. Needs to be ignored completely.
This post was edited on 1/12/23 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:12 pm to Cheer
Kirby strikes me as the type to walk away when 1 of 2 things happens.
1) His family is severely hurting without him as present as he could be.
2) CFB changes so much with NIL and super conferences that it becomes NFL minor leagues. That's not they type of thing he seems interested in navigating.
I'd guess we have about 6-8 more seasons until #2 is a reality.
1) His family is severely hurting without him as present as he could be.
2) CFB changes so much with NIL and super conferences that it becomes NFL minor leagues. That's not they type of thing he seems interested in navigating.
I'd guess we have about 6-8 more seasons until #2 is a reality.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:18 pm to Cheer
Schu or Dell would fit an "in waiting" situation.
I don't know an "in waiting" situation that worked out, though.
I don't know an "in waiting" situation that worked out, though.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:21 pm to meansonny
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I don't know an "in waiting" situation that worked out, though.
Jimbo won a natty shortly after Bowden retired.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:25 pm to SemperFiDawg
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unwise
I'd hate to be the catalyst for Kirby leaving and/or not bringing another championship to The University but, hey, I gotta be me.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:26 pm to meansonny
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I don't know an "in waiting" situation that worked out, though.
Jimbo won a Natty at FSU, but left them in shambles, so you may be correct.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 12:28 pm to meansonny
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don't know an "in waiting" situation that worked out, though.
Again, really the only reason for my participation in this speculation is Schumann. He really is a Kirby guy, moreso than anyone else on this staff. Schumann has hitched his wagon to Kirby and has been all in, all the way. It's just curious to me.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 1:05 pm to Cheer
I’ve wondered, if Schu doesn’t leave for Alabama as Nicks replacement.. He didn’t play at Bama, like Kirby did at UGA; but he is an Alumn there. My guess is he would be Nick’s idea of the right replacement. The Bama boosters, who knows.
He’s 32. Kirby is 47. Kirby has been here 7 years. If Nick works 5 more.. That puts Schu at 37.. with 6 years as DC.. Kirby was 8 years as DC.. it’s a little ahead of Kirby’s timeline.. but not much..
If Kirby works 10 more years.. and wins 3-4 more.. he’s 57, one of the GOATS, a gazillionaire, and all his kids are starting their adult lives.. pretty good plan if you ask me.
He’s 32. Kirby is 47. Kirby has been here 7 years. If Nick works 5 more.. That puts Schu at 37.. with 6 years as DC.. Kirby was 8 years as DC.. it’s a little ahead of Kirby’s timeline.. but not much..
If Kirby works 10 more years.. and wins 3-4 more.. he’s 57, one of the GOATS, a gazillionaire, and all his kids are starting their adult lives.. pretty good plan if you ask me.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 1:16 pm to 3rddownonthe8
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if Schu doesn’t leave for Alabama as Nicks replacement.. He didn’t play at Bama, like Kirby did at UGA; but he is an Alumn there.
Dabo did, however. Swinney is the only possible person I could see Bama taking immediately after Saban and have any degree of success there.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 1:20 pm to 3rddownonthe8
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If Kirby works 10 more years.. and wins 3-4 more.. he’s 57, one of the GOATS, a gazillionaire, and all his kids are starting their adult lives.. pretty good plan if you ask me.
That was more on-line with what I was imagining. Kirby goes until a more traditional retirement range, but doesn't hang around into his 60's and 70's like Saban and some legendary coaches of the past.
Certainly, there would be any number of things which would factor into any plan/decision made by Kirby with regards to his longevity, but he's always just seemed to have that competitive edge which would drive him in the role until death, but he has shown a more human side in the aftermath of this one that it had me wondering if there is an end game for him in this role.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 1:22 pm to VoxDawg
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Swinney is the only possible person I could see Bama taking immediately after Saban and have any degree of success there.
I'm of the opinion that the "aw shucks" shite that Dabo spews would go over like a fart in a cathedral were he to accept that position. He'd have to fall in line with the process, over there, with a quickness, especially following a legend like Saban.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 1:24 pm to Cheer
It's totally OT about Swinney, but I think that in the immediate vacuum of Saban's retirement (whenever that might be. Dude may die on the sidelines rather than hang it up), Dabo might think he's man enough to fill the void. It would be glorious to see his failing in the attempt, because that would weaken Clemson while simultaneously taking all the wind out of Bama.
Posted on 1/12/23 at 1:39 pm to VoxDawg
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Dabo might think he's man enough to fill the void. It would be glorious to see his failing in the attempt, because that would weaken Clemson while simultaneously taking all the wind out of Bama.
Dabo would let it be known that God called him to lead those young men at Alabama.
I would love to see him there. I've been pretty adamant in stating my belief that it'll be Lane at Bama when Saban steps aside.
Not sure if that'll be dangerous or hilarious, but it would definitely be entertaining.
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