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re: UPDATE: Backup Florida QB Jalen Kitna Child Porn Charges Dropped

Posted on 11/30/22 at 6:58 pm to
Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 6:58 pm to
Morals and laws are NOT the same. See the link I posted.
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10781 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 7:06 pm to
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Morals and laws are NOT the same.


I’m aware. But, hear me out on this, someone in their early 20’s having sex with a 16 year old is objectively wrong. I can’t help that some states, including my own, are ok enough with pedophilia to still have 16 as their age of consent.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22800 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 7:11 pm to
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Once again, you shouldn’t need a law to tell you that having sex with a child is fricked up. Despite the fact that much of the south deems it legal to have sex with a 16 year old, while opining about sex trafficking, it’s fricking disgusting. A 16 year old is a child, period, end of story. We don’t even trust them enough to vote, and for good reason, because they are children.


So you've gone from it's illegal for a reason, to I shouldn't need a law.

It's total bullshite that you lack the intellectual ability to separate those who are well along into puberty from those who are not. Those who are being actually abused and those who are just young people trying to experience things in life.

That to me is fricked up. I wasn't in a position of power, didn't abuse any positions of power, and I didn't abuse anyone. I wasn't picking them up off the corner telling them a bunch of bullshite. I was just a guy they were interested in. They were not harmed, their lives weren't affected negatively, nothing like that. Everyone went on with their lives after normally. Casual sex.

But no. You can't determine if someone is really being abused or not. No ability to take the context and other facts into place. Just this magic number you've determined is where the moral line is, and if anyone should cross your magic line, they are just terrible people!

The only one causing harm in this situation is people like you. And that's why I posted what I did.

I'm all about extreme penalties for actual abuse. I'm not at all about fricking up peoples lives over causal sex.

Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 7:12 pm to
I agree wholehearted that it's morally fricked but I also acknowledge that the laws are different than my personal morals.
Posted by Torch
Northshore Dr
Member since Feb 2017
3282 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 7:14 pm to
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3down10



Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10781 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 7:17 pm to
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So you've gone from it's illegal for a reason, to I shouldn't need a law.

It's total bullshite that you lack the intellectual ability to separate those who are well along into puberty from those who are not.


I said its illegal to have sex with minors for a reason, objectively wrong to sleep with 16 year olds in your early 20’s, and that you shouldn’t need a law to tell you where that line is. I never said it was illegal for you to have sex with a 16 year old in your early 20’s, I said its fricked up and disgusting.

I have ample intellectual ability to know not to frick 16 year olds, by your own admission, we cannot say the same for you.
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 7:19 pm
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5254 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 7:20 pm to
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someone in their early 20’s having sex with a 16 year old is objectively wrong.


I don't know, man...it seems influenced by personal feeling and opinion.

That would make it subjective.

That said, my father married my mother when she was 16 and he, 20. He shipped off for Vietnam the next week. He's probably gonna burn in hell after he dies, having been married to that woman for 50+ years. Pure evil.

Objectively evil, as you said, right?
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22800 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 7:26 pm to
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You were the creepy dude that struck out in college so you fricked around with high school sophomores weren’t you? Also that’s a felony


No, I was the military guy with the great body and boyish looks that your girlfriend wanted to frick. I also had a reputation that lead to my door being knocked on late night quite often. I turned down more than I took, most often times because they weren't single, although I did frick the shite out of this one guys wife because I'm 99% sure he stole $200 from me. The other times, I didn't know they were married or had boyfriends at the time.

But if it makes you feel better to believe otherwise, go ahead.

And once again, nothing I did was illegal.
Posted by GatorBait24
Pensacola
Member since Jul 2016
5380 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 7:32 pm to
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Wow Sad situation Sun belt billy in over his head letting these types of individuals onto his program

It’s a Mullen recruit. How the frick is Napier supposed to know the kid had child porn? That would make Napier complicit. You’re too much sometimes.
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
10781 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 7:34 pm to
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That said, my father married my mother when she was 16 and he, 20.


We should consider and understand that people did things they thought were ok, which we now know are not. That’s a far cry from the guy in this thread defending having sex with minors because he “fricked girls as young as 16 into his early 20’s”.

We are literally less than 200 years removed from slavery being acceptable to the vast majority of the population, that doesn’t mean it was right. So, yes, it is objectively wrong. It was socially accepted at the time, but that doesn’t mean it’s ok.
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 8:06 pm
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22800 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 7:37 pm to
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I said its illegal to have sex with minors for a reason, objectively wrong to sleep with 16 year olds in your early 20’s, and that you shouldn’t need a law to tell you where that line is. I never said it was illegal for you to have sex with a 16 year old in your early 20’s, I said its fricked up and disgusting.

I have ample intellectual ability to know not to frick 16 year olds, by your own admission, we cannot say the same for you.


And nothing I did was illegal. So how can what I did be illegal for a reason, when what I did wasn't illegal?

And it still wouldn't be illegal 30+ years later.

Beyond that, tell what bad thing happened to them? How were they abused? How were their lives negatively affected? Where did I in ANY way harm them? Literally nothing bad happened other than their filled their curiosity and had a good time.

So how can you tell me you have intellectual ability when you can't distinguish that from people who are actually abusing kids? Where damage is done to these kids that will in some cases NEVER LEAVE THEM. Things they will have to live with for a long time, if they don't kill themselves. Actual and real fricking damage/abuse.

It's not the same thing and it's fricking ridiculous when people like you try to pretend it is. The only thing you are trying to push here are your social guidelines you've created in your head, and it has absolutely nothing to do with if there is even an actual victim involved.

This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 7:46 pm
Posted by GatorBait24
Pensacola
Member since Jul 2016
5380 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 7:38 pm to
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ot only would every single person here have done the same things I did, you've all probably done it or worse.

Only a piece of shite would say something like this. Don’t project your sins on us you gross bastard.
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 7:43 pm
Posted by GatorBait24
Pensacola
Member since Jul 2016
5380 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 7:41 pm to
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Nothing I said or did was illegal.

Congratulations you’re man of the year. The problem is you still not seeing an issue with it and bragging about it. That’s disgusting and I wish I could kick your arse for those poor girls.
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 7:42 pm
Posted by TommyM
Conflict of interest
Member since Nov 2013
2295 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 7:41 pm to
Amazing thread
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22800 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 7:42 pm to
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Only a piece of shite would say something like this. Don’t project your sins on us you gross mother fricker.


My sins?

I assume you must be talking about sex out of wedlock.

Yes, I have sinned quite a bit like that. If you've only been married once and only had sex with that woman in your life, congrats because that is extremely rare and great. I admire that you've had the will and moral strength to do that, because I am sure it's not easy.

Posted by FatDawg
Bedrock
Member since Jul 2018
424 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 7:42 pm to
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And nothing I did was illegal. So how can what I did be illegal for a reason, when what I did wasn't illegal?

And it still wouldn't be illegal 30+ years later.

Beyond that, tell what bad thing happened to them? How were they abused? How were their lives negatively affected? Where did I in ANY way harm them? Literally nothing bad happened other than their filled their curiosity and had a good time.

So how you can tell me you have intellectual ability when you can't distinguish that from people who are actually abusing kids? Where damage is done to these kids that will in some cases NEVER LEAVE THEM. Things they will have to live with for a long time, if they don't kill themselves. Actual and real fricking damage/abuse.

It's not the same thing and it's fricking ridiculous when people like you try to pretend it is. The only thing you are trying to push here are your social guidelines you've created in your head, and it has absolutely nothing to do with if there is even an actual victim involved.


I still think you are a toolbox.
Posted by Cheer
Member since Sep 2021
5254 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 7:44 pm to
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objectively wrong


Keep seeing this thrown about, yet nothing about this is objective. It's purely subjective.

If you were arguing prepubescent, I could agree with the "objective" because there is a metric that isn't some arbitrary number that makes some people squirm for whatever reason.

Not everyone is grown at 16, but neither is everyone at 16 still a child by any metric besides an arbitrary number decided by people based upon the moral repugnancy of the act of sex by someone at that age.

That is subjective.

IMO of course.

As for Kitna, I hope the shite isn't true. Seriously.

Posted by Colonel Ingus
Houston
Member since Nov 2021
5385 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 7:44 pm to
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Amazing thread

Posted by GatorBait24
Pensacola
Member since Jul 2016
5380 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 7:44 pm to
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No, I was the military guy with the great body and boyish looks that your girlfriend wanted to frick. I also had a reputation that lead to my door being knocked on late night quite often. I turned down more than I took, most often times because they weren't single, although I did frick the shite out of this one guys wife because I'm 99% sure he stole $200 from me. The other times, I didn't know they were married or had boyfriends at the time

Is this why you spend so much time on the internet now? You’re not fooling anyone bro. Anybody actually like you’re describing wouldn’t need to frick 16 year olds because we aren’t fricking gross.
This post was edited on 11/30/22 at 7:49 pm
Posted by GatorBait24
Pensacola
Member since Jul 2016
5380 posts
Posted on 11/30/22 at 7:48 pm to
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No, I was the military guy with the great body and boyish looks that your girlfriend wanted to frick. I also had a reputation that lead to my door being knocked on late night quite often. I turned down more than I took, most often times because they weren't single, although I did frick the shite out of this one guys wife because I'm 99% sure he stole $200 from me. The other times, I didn't know they were married or had boyfriends at the time

I’m talking about you being a bragging pedophile. Come brag about it to my face.
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