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Fire Odom.

Posted on 10/8/22 at 2:50 pm
Posted by TheOtherWhiteMeat
Fort Smith
Member since Nov 2009
20465 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 2:50 pm
I think Pittman will have to fire Odom, I'd fire the whole defensive staff save the linebacker coach.
Odom is too stubborn, doesn't make adjustments. We couldn't stop the run with a 3 man front and they still were able to throw on us. Needed to bring pressure, the 2 times we brought pressure the results were incomplete passes.

ETA: and he doesn't recruit
This post was edited on 10/8/22 at 2:51 pm
Posted by JeffLebowski
Member since Feb 2015
2496 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 2:54 pm to
Thanks for the ETA. Was about to say…
Posted by Pygthagorean Theorem
Member since Aug 2015
8084 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 2:56 pm to
I've never understood the love for him. If you're gonna have a shitty to average DC schematically, at least get one that is a hell of a recruiter.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14671 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 3:46 pm to
Okay, let’s say you fire Odom. You bring in a guy that runs a better defense, gives up fewer points, and never loses anyone to injury or the portal.

Now what do you do about an offense that cannot sustain drives? Because it doesn’t matter if you resurrect the Steel Curtain defense, if you make them play 35-40 minutes per game, you’ll lose more than you win.
Posted by Porker Face
Eden Isle
Member since Feb 2012
15949 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 4:11 pm to
We were getting torched from kickoff. Unkess they were jetlagged from the flight to Mississippi, this is not the issue
Posted by ElDawgHawg
L.A. (lower Arkansas)
Member since Nov 2012
3593 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 4:13 pm to
I’m in… Odom has to go… bend but don’t break only works when you don’t break. We break more than we don’t. I want to at least see an aggressive front with pressure and proper fundamentals taught. Can’t play a 3 down front if your nose doesn’t command a double team.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14671 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 6:08 pm to
quote:

We were getting torched from kickoff. Unkess they were jetlagged from the flight to Mississippi, this is not the issue


I’ve acknowledged that the defense, the scheme, the fundamentals, everything about our defense is atrocious. What I’m saying is that our offense making our atrocious defense play 35+ minutes per game pretty much guarantees a loss.
Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
8914 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 6:13 pm to
quote:

Now what do you do about an offense that cannot sustain drives? Because it doesn’t matter if you resurrect the Steel Curtain defense, if you make them play 35-40 minutes per game, you’ll lose more than you win.


Other than this and the Missouri State game we havent had lopsided TOP. Every other game it’s been within a minute or 2.

Quit using that as an excuse for every damn game, when it’s almost identical. They should expect to be on the field for 30m.
This post was edited on 10/8/22 at 6:14 pm
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14671 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 6:23 pm to
Do I need to post the first half time of possession again? They were on the field 20 of that 30 minutes in the first half.
Posted by TheOtherWhiteMeat
Fort Smith
Member since Nov 2009
20465 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 7:18 pm to
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Do I need to post the first half time of possession again? They were on the field 20 of that 30 minutes in the first half.



Literally, the post above yours addressed this.
Also, against MSU they methodically gashed our D all the way down the field on almost every possession. That's going to eat clock.Maybe if the D could stop a wet fart they wouldn't be on the field so much.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14671 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 7:50 pm to
quote:

Maybe if the D could stop a wet fart they wouldn't be on the field so much.


Why would you think that, when our offense can’t stay on the field? Our defense can’t get off the field, our offense can’t stay on it. The big difference being half the offense hasn’t been hurt since game 1.
This post was edited on 10/8/22 at 8:12 pm
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14671 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 7:59 pm to
Here is our game on offense:

Punt
Turn over on downs
Punt
Field goal
Touchdown

Punt
Turn over on downs
Touchdown
Turn over on downs
Interception
Punt

It literally doesn’t matter what the defense does, if this is all your offense can do.

ETA:

Our defense stopped their offense 5 times. Their defense stopped our offense 8 times.
This post was edited on 10/8/22 at 8:05 pm
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
20387 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 8:05 pm to
3 of those turnover on downs were the dumbest thing of the game plan on offense. Did Cam Little just forget how to kick or something? That’s 9 points left on the field. Could have been 34-26 if we just take the points.

Another of my angers. Sam needs to learn to take the points some times.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14671 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 8:18 pm to
quote:

Another of my angers. Sam needs to learn to take the points some times.


Yeah, but they were rolling our defense. You aren’t doing anything trading field goals for touchdowns. I was okay going for it, but some of the calls were asinine, some just weren’t executed well.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
41423 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 8:39 pm to
quote:

Could have been 34-26 if we just take the points.


Could have won if we had scored TDs on the two red zone TODs.
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
38135 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 8:56 pm to
Briles play calls were as always WTF
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
30934 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 9:15 pm to
Got a lot done today at the camp with all the extra time I had from skipping this shitfest. Looks to be a banner fall for hunting and fishing.

Counting down to tip off though!!
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
20387 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:16 pm to
Amazing watching this A&M game, we all know their offense sucks worse than ours but you know what’s kept them in the game? Their defense.

The SEC is won and lost on defense.

You know what we averaged per game last year per game first six games?

32 pts.

This year

30 pts

Last year we had Rice and Georgia Southern padded in there along with the shutout at Georgia.

Offense is still seeing the same general output.

Defense on the other hand

Gave up 2021
24.5

This year
32.1



Where are our biggest issues? We’ve regressed on Defense.


Watch any show nationally where they talk about Arkansas. They don’t hate on the offense. Their constant complaint our defense sucks.


This post was edited on 10/8/22 at 10:19 pm
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
26709 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:21 pm to
Odom has to go and if Sam isn't going to give him the boot then his stay here will be short.
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
41423 posts
Posted on 10/8/22 at 10:21 pm to
We have to hit the transfer portal hard on the defensive side. Buckets of cash for actual players needs to be the name of the game.
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