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In state students applying to UA

Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:41 am
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
4979 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:41 am
Pretty nuts. The standards continue to fall. All you need is a 3.2 GPA in high school and get auto admission to UA. No more entrance exam minimums. ACT is optional.

Faculty vote to waive entrace exams for in state students
This post was edited on 5/5/22 at 8:42 am
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
26404 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 8:54 am to
Anyone who can't see that colleges are now nothing more than a giant moneymaking scheme are absolutely blind.


Also, how does a decision like this not have to go before the BoT? Don't they have to approve basically every major academic change made?
Posted by Billy Blanks
Member since Dec 2021
4979 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 9:06 am to
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how does a decision like this not have to go before the BoT?


That's a really good point. This is a landmark decision and one you can't really undue once it's done.
Posted by Riggle
Member since Feb 2013
4593 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 9:06 am to
There's a much higher correlation with GPA and college success than ACT/SAT scores. Also, you'll need entrance exams to get any kind of scholarship.

Here's a study done by UChicago
This post was edited on 5/5/22 at 9:08 am
Posted by hogfly
Fayetteville, AR
Member since May 2014
5075 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 9:29 am to
quote:

There's a much higher correlation with GPA and college success than ACT/SAT scores. Also, you'll need entrance exams to get any kind of scholarship.

Here's a study done by UChicago



In education, and this is completely true. Also true in my own life. I was an awesome standardized test taker, but I had a shite work ethic when I went to college due to high school having been really easy and not applying myself. I got a full ride at the UofA from test scores then lost it. I finally managed to drag my grades up (mainly by switching to an easier major). Then I got into grad school easily again due to my GRE scores. I did fine, but I didn't kill it.

My wife is a horrible test taker and barely got into the UofA. She destroyed college. Then she, once again, barely got into graduate school due to her GRE scores. When she did, she ended up destroying graduate school as well, being published several times, getting research assistantships, and all kinds of other indicators of "killing it" in college.

Posted by FayetteNAM
Boston Mountains
Member since Jun 2013
8917 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 11:05 am to
Need more students to pay for the DEI offices.
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
24011 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 2:40 pm to
this, all of this....

3.875 gpa from HS.. Standardized tests killed me... And I worked three jobs to pay for my degrees, not many scholarships until I applied after a couple of years and proved myself. Then was a Grad Intern, taught a few classes for my professor, etc.

Paid all loans back by working by rear off, and the blessings of others. No government freebies.
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Faulkner County
Member since Jun 2009
15404 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 3:00 pm to
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Paid all loans back by working by rear off, and the blessings of others. No government freebies.

Work harder, libs need your tax dollars.
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
24011 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 3:10 pm to
Posted by ArHog
Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2008
38137 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 4:08 pm to
quote:

Paid all loans back by working by rear off, and the blessings of others. No government freebies.



Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
64613 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

There's a much higher correlation with GPA and college success than ACT/SAT scores.
That seems like common sense to me. The people with the established work ethic to be good at actual school fare better than those who can just take a test well. I'm not sure that means the tests are pointless, though.
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
24011 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 6:06 pm to
It is all a scam man. Friend of mine has a kid who is brilliant but lazy in school. C student. He pays 1200 bucks for the ACT prep course through some corp. She makes a very high score on the ACT and gets almost complete scholarship to the UofA. Then flunks out of the classes.

My kid struggles in school but winds up with 3.78 gpa at the High school level. The education sucks. Then a 24 on the ACT which didn't help much, but she invested herself with service projects in the community and state and wound up with some awesome scholarships. Struggled her 1st semester until she understood what a college education was like (HS did not prepare her for it at all) and now has a 3.85 gpa. I know, TLDR!
Posted by Razorback Reverend
Member since Dec 2013
24011 posts
Posted on 5/5/22 at 6:08 pm to
It is all a scam man. Friend of mine has a kid who is brilliant but lazy in school. C student. He pays 1200 bucks for the ACT prep course through some corp. She makes a very high score on the ACT and gets almost complete scholarship to the UofA. Then flunks out of the classes.

My kid struggles in school but winds up with 3.78 gpa at the High school level. The education sucks. Then a 24 on the ACT which didn't help much, but she invested herself with service projects in the community and state and wound up with some awesome scholarships. Struggled her 1st semester until she understood what a college education was like (HS did not prepare her for it at all) and now has a 3.85 gpa. I know, TLDR!
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
26737 posts
Posted on 5/6/22 at 9:24 am to
As others have said there if you are good at taking the ACT/SAT/BRB or what have you that does not mean you will be a good student. I can't remember my ACT score but I crushed it. I was, however, a lousy student my first go around in college.
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