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Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:42 pm to MrAUTigers
Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:42 pm to MrAUTigers
Right after he goes on vacation and can’t defend himself.
Something’s fishy in the state of Denmark.
Something’s fishy in the state of Denmark.
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Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:45 pm to CorchJay
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In all seriousness that reads like there might be an official complaint towards Harsin by someone. What that compliant might be I have no idea.
Yep... a lawyer at Auburn is crossing Ts and dotting Is on anything said publicly at this point.
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Yea, that isn't really how these things work. He's not getting fired from a lead fry cook job at McDonald's. Even if they have some version of cause they will dot i's and cross t's before making a move on him. It is also possible they have cause but would prefer to negotiate a buyout because it is always cleaner and usually cheaper.
This exactly... you don't kneejerk a multimillion dollar negotiation.
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:50 pm to MrAUTigers
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It might be true that their final decision won't be based on social media rumor, but I can guarantee you that these rumors are at least part of the reason the investigation began in the first place.
Dude, the investigation started BEFORE any of this became public knowledge. This all started after several players and staff filed complaints against him. The complaints were seen as typical "culture change" stuff at first, but with coaches leaving and problems mounting, they had to be investigated. You're right that if he went 10-2 this never becomes a problem; because if he went 10-2 there wouldn't be massive coaching turnover and player attrition, now would there?
Part of this whole story is that Auburn wouldn't discuss OC salary terms with him PRIOR to him going on vacation. This was BEFORE any rumor came out anywhere. What this means is that they weren't going to let him make an OC hire...because he was already under investigation.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 4:55 pm to headrusch
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Right after he goes on vacation and can’t defend himself.
Something’s fishy in the state of Denmark.
Why does this "point" keep getting repeated?
If you're about to investigate someone for what Harsin is being investigated for, the best time to gather information and conduct interviews is EXACTLY while the person is away. This is literally corporate law 101.
The fact that this is being spun as Auburn being "cowardly" or "nefarious" is comical. Auburn is trying to protect Auburn, they're not in the business of making this convenient for Bryan Harsin who may or may not have caused harm to the university and brand.
By the way; Auburn has one of the best legal/compliance teams in the country. For those that seem to be getting weirdly giddy about the thought of them bungling this up or making things up.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 5:17 pm to metafour
I think his point was more so how weird it was that all the rumors (rumored affair, all the rumors about mistreating players, etc.) all came out right as he left and all around the same time as well
Posted on 2/7/22 at 5:18 pm to metafour
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By the way; Auburn has one of the best legal/compliance teams in the country. For those that seem to be getting weirdly giddy about the thought of them bungling this up or making things up.
It sounds like they’re full of unprofessional leakers.
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 5:19 pm
Posted on 2/7/22 at 5:25 pm to AUTubaHerd
I doubt someone with the University started the message board stuff.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 5:27 pm to metafour
Mason left on January 22nd, telling his players he's taking a break from coaching for a while. Surfaces at OK State for a pay cut one week later. Who does that? Could Mason have been the one that pulled the pin on the grenade leaving a parting gift that Harsin is in today?
Harsin, while not firing him, was probably upset at the defensive performance towards the end of the season (assuming Schmedding called the plays in the Iron Bowl).
Connecting the dots it adds up.
Speculation on my part, no facts here, but could explain where we are today, especially with the potential racial references pointed towards Harsin.
Harsin, while not firing him, was probably upset at the defensive performance towards the end of the season (assuming Schmedding called the plays in the Iron Bowl).
Connecting the dots it adds up.
Speculation on my part, no facts here, but could explain where we are today, especially with the potential racial references pointed towards Harsin.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 5:29 pm to metafour
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The fact that this is being spun as Auburn being "cowardly" or "nefarious" is comical. Auburn is trying to protect Auburn, they're not in the business of making this convenient for Bryan Harsin who may or may not have caused harm to the university and brand.
Doesn’t seem very much like anyone is trying to protect Auburn. Seems like every man for himself and forget the university or the players who had the resilience to stay and be a part of the culture they believed they were building.
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 2/7/22 at 5:29 pm to sthrndream
Mason doesn't want any part of that shite.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 5:42 pm to sthrndream
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Speculation on my part, no facts here, but could explain where we are today, especially with the potential racial references pointed towards Harsin.
honest question.........say we win 9 games and have the number 8 recruiting class in the nation, do you think any of these allegations see the light of day?
If the answer is no, which it probably is, then all of these allegations are a non-factor.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 5:45 pm to MrAUTigers
Agree, If we win nine games, Mason and Bobo are still here! And these allegations dont come up...maybe!
Posted on 2/7/22 at 5:51 pm to sthrndream
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Agree, If we win nine games, Mason and Bobo are still here!
we bitched about BoBo game in and game out.
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And these allegations dont come up...maybe!
You know damn well they don't come up.
But it's no big deal because any future coach probably isn't hearing anything about this.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 5:53 pm to MrAUTigers
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honest question.........say we win 9 games and have the number 8 recruiting class in the nation, do you think any of these allegations see the light of day?
Yea I mean I have no idea if Harsin did that stuff, but his wins and losses shouldn’t matter in determining it. We very, very easily could have 9 wins if Bo is healthy. Did those 3 losses really cause Harsin to behave in a way that justified all this?
Posted on 2/7/22 at 6:00 pm to TemperdTiger
Another day with no answers. Thanks auburn! Love it
Posted on 2/7/22 at 6:04 pm to MrAUTigers
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honest question.........say we win 9 games and have the number 8 recruiting class in the nation, do you think any of these allegations see the light of day?
If the answer is no, which it probably is, then all of these allegations are a non-factor.
The problem with that line of thinking is that they are interrelated. The symptoms are indicative of the issues within the program. It's like saying, "would you be upset if that patient lived just because they can't breathe?".
The wide receiver coach was fired after 4 games. The defensive coordinator left to a less prestigious job with a paycut. One offensive coordinator was let go and the replacement left. The starting QB left. The starting RB was about to leave and probably got a big NIL deal. The most productive wide receiver left. It's clear the players are split half and half(ish) on hating his guts and "I don't like him personally but he's a good coach".
With all of that going on I'm not sure how you could end up with a top 10 recruiting class and a great record.
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 2/7/22 at 6:08 pm to ALhunter
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The wide receiver coach was fired after 4 games.
He wasn’t getting his guys on the field in time and they weren’t catching the ball.
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 6:09 pm
Posted on 2/7/22 at 6:09 pm to MrAUTigers
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honest question.........say we win 9 games and have the number 8 recruiting class in the nation, do you think any of these allegations see the light of day?
If the answer is no, which it probably is, then all of these allegations are a non-factor.
LSU willingly ignored Orgeron bringing women and kids to practice while Orgeron won. Hitting on booster’s daughter and all that junk was just fine.
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Dubose fricked his secretary. Got caught lying about it. Then went to the SEC Championship and still kept his short leash .
A BOT member:
"If he wins, he's safe," Cleo Thomas said. "If he doesn't win, he's not safe. His fate will be determined by Ws and Ls, and the Ws don't stand for women."
Allegations can pop up at a moment’s notice.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 6:11 pm to AUTubaHerd
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The wide receiver coach was fired after 4 games.
He wasn’t getting his guys on the field in time and they weren’t catching the ball.
Yep - as the head coach it was his responsibility to hire a good wide receivers coach in the first place.
Posted on 2/7/22 at 6:12 pm to ALhunter
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The problem with that line of thinking is that they are interrelated. The symptoms are indicative of the issues within the program. It's like saying, "would you be upset if that patient lived just because they can't breathe?".
so you don't think it's a coincidence that this came to light the day after NSD, where we didn't sign a single player? The very next day.
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