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Kirby Yelling At Stet

Posted on 1/2/22 at 11:19 pm
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 1/2/22 at 11:19 pm
During the extended replay of the targeting call near the end of the first half, Kirby certainly had the offense over for a long talk before play resumed. The offense then was very deliberate in letting the clock run down. Kirby was screaming at Stet as he went to the sideline. Did Kirby not tell the offense to hurry up and try to score? Did Stet not do what was discussed? It seemed very confusing.
Posted by Buzz Killington
Member since Nov 2019
1519 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 11:44 pm to
Kirby should have called a timeout.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
7353 posts
Posted on 1/2/22 at 11:50 pm to
There was only one timeout remaining. But Kirby should have discussed clearly what the team was to do in the time remaining. Even called the first two plays and emphasized the need to hurry up and watch the clock.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
11135 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 3:23 am to
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Kirby should have called a timeout.


They wasted time from the very first play and ran two runs. Pretty sure they burned 30 seconds after the first play.

Kirby wanted the last play run and then was going to use the timeout to go for end zone or field goal. There was still 12 seconds before last play had they run it in time.

Something was off from the beginning. They never went to two minute/hurry up and no reason not to.

We failed to score on any of the three turnovers.
Posted by MikkUGA
Destin
Member since Jun 2014
2131 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 5:52 am to
Kirby only had one timeout. So no Kirby shouldn't have used it. Kirby wanted to run a 2 minute offense. So Stetson was to call the plays and play a 2 minute offense. Kirby needed to save the t.o. in case they got in fg range.
Posted by Brick67
Member since Oct 2012
1456 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 6:49 am to
So then how was it so difficult to signal in the 2min drill?
Posted by shallowminded
Member since Nov 2012
3110 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 7:03 am to
I think the call to run out the clock came from Monken. The plays were not coming from upstairs fast enough, and/or Stetson was not signaled for the go. Kirby wanted to override that, but it was too late. When Kirby got to Stetson as they were walking off the field, Stetson looked scared as hell. He had that look a kid gets when he knows he’s about to get a spanking, he just doesn’t know when it’s coming..

I love Kirby’s fire, I really do, but that was a bit extreme!
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
14405 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 7:13 am to
Monken has 100% control of the offense. Kirby was letting him do his thing and apparently didn’t agree with what he was doing.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61334 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 7:23 am to
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Kirby only had one timeout. So no Kirby shouldn't have used it. Kirby wanted to run a 2 minute offense. So Stetson was to call the plays and play a 2 minute offense. Kirby needed to save the t.o. in case they got in fg range.



Yes, he should have. That TO did no good taking it into halftime.

There was something off and there is no way to tell exactly what it was.

Unless Bennett is calling his own plays he is at the mercy of the OC to get the play in from the sideline. They should have been throwing the ball instead of running it up the middle if they wanted to get into scoring position.

As soon as it was obvious there was a disconnect, Kirby should have called the timeout and gotten it straightened out. Then if you get into FG range you can clock the ball if necessary.

If Bennett was waiting on the play from the sideline it was not his fault...but it seemed as if he had no urgency to get the play run once he got the call, so part of that is on Bennett.

It was mainly that Monken and Bennett was on a different page than Kirby. Kirby or Bennett could have called a TO at any point, but it looked like Bennett was genuinely surprised that Kirby wanted them to score again. He was getting two different messages from Monken and Kirby.
This post was edited on 1/3/22 at 7:26 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61334 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 7:24 am to
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Monken has 100% control of the offense. Kirby was letting him do his thing and apparently didn’t agree with what he was doing.

This was my impression. The TO should have been used to get on the same page. Not ideal, but necessary.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
15560 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 7:25 am to
Kirby needed to be yelling at monken who probably had already headed to the lockerroom for halftime

Terrible look by kirby as i can tell you stet did what he was told.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
11135 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 7:28 am to
Disagree on the timeout but useless banter at this point. There was a disconnect that shouldn’t have happened. Not sure what Monken was doing but obv Kirby disagreed.

Posted by GaBassFisher92
Dublin, Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
3183 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 7:34 am to
The offense should have been moving at a faster pace and Kirby should have called timeout after the first down. On the positive side, it's an issue that came up in a game we were up 27-3 in, not a close game against Bama. So, it should be a learning experience.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61334 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 10:59 am to
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Disagree on the timeout but useless banter at this point.

That's okay that you disagree, and to a point it is useless. but what good did it do to keep the timeout going into the half?

quote:

Not sure what Monken was doing but obv Kirby disagreed.

My guess is Monken was assuming we go into the half with the lead. It was a good lead and he didn't want to take a chance on a turnover and changing the momentum of the game.

Kirby wanted to go ahead and finish Michigan.

I like that Kirby wanted to pour it on, but in fairness to Monken how many times have we been content with sitting on a lead? Bennett was caught in the middle.

Why hold on to a TO when time is running out on you if you want to score again? Is it ideal? no. But you can always spike the ball to stop the clock. By holding on to the timeout we just sat back and watched the opportunity slip away and let frustration get us.

Call the timeout and get everybody on the same page.



Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61334 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:00 am to
quote:

So, it should be a learning experience.


exactly.
Posted by grey
Member since Aug 2015
3921 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:12 am to
No way Monken doesn't try to at least get into field goal range after that interception... right?

I have to believe that's on Bennett.
Posted by DAWG0829
Dallas,Ga
Member since Oct 2012
1651 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:19 am to
He’s not trained to
Go for it before half , we always kill the clock and regroup at half one of the main things I dislike about Kirby
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
9687 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:22 am to
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Bennett was caught in the middle.


His head coach was on the sideline jumping up and down telling them to hurry the frick up. He's the boss. I think Kirby was upset that Stet never looked his way.

That sequence did make me wonder if Kirby's headset is muted on offense which, frankly, would really surprise me. If he wanted to go for points, he should have had comms to both Monken and to Stet's helmet. The way it played out, it was like he was completely shut out from the conversation.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
13904 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:23 am to
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No way Monken doesn't try to at least get into field goal range after that interception... right? I have to believe that's on Bennett.


Are you assuming that either we do not have a signal for hurry up offense or that Stetson did not see it?
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
61334 posts
Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:43 am to
quote:

No way Monken doesn't try to at least get into field goal range after that interception... right?

I have to believe that's on Bennett.




So....you think Monken called pass plays and Bennett changed the play to run up the middle? Or are you being sarcastic?
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