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Can We Talk About the Officiating?
Posted on 12/28/21 at 7:26 pm
Posted on 12/28/21 at 7:26 pm
The targeting call has got to fricking go. Holy shite they are ruining football. That ejection of Smoke was bullshite. They didn’t even call it on the field! They reviewed the play and called it afterwards.
Then the second targeting at the end of the game coupled with the non-call on the grounding. What a shitshow. What conference were those clowns from?
Then the second targeting at the end of the game coupled with the non-call on the grounding. What a shitshow. What conference were those clowns from?
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Posted on 12/28/21 at 7:33 pm to Aubie Spr96
Regardless of conference officiating is horrible.
The targeting rule has got to go for sure. Yes keep the penalty but the ejection is bs and for it to even roll over into another game possibly is even more garbage.
The targeting rule has got to go for sure. Yes keep the penalty but the ejection is bs and for it to even roll over into another game possibly is even more garbage.
Posted on 12/28/21 at 7:34 pm to Aubie Spr96
And I think they need to get rid of the targeting after the fact... if it's not called immediately and reviewed then don't call it when you are reviewing to see if a catch was made and spot it away from the play.
Posted on 12/28/21 at 7:40 pm to ShredSquatch
They review every play. The reason is to make sure the equipment is working. In 2016, the NCAA changed the rule and gave the power to the booth to stop play and make that call from upstairs. No other penalty can be called from the booth except for targeting.
I gave ACC and SEC Replay Officials a hard time, (officiated with four of them) telling them ...and to think you get paid to watch TV and eat hot dogs, drink beer or cokes all day.
I gave ACC and SEC Replay Officials a hard time, (officiated with four of them) telling them ...and to think you get paid to watch TV and eat hot dogs, drink beer or cokes all day.
Posted on 12/28/21 at 7:44 pm to bluedragon
shite penalty needs to be changed.
Posted on 12/28/21 at 7:47 pm to bluedragon
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the NCAA changed the rule and gave the power to the booth to stop play and make that call from upstairs. No other penalty can be called from the booth except for targeting.
Well they need to take that power away for random calls after the fact.
Posted on 12/28/21 at 7:49 pm to HailToTheChiz
Did we ever get an explanation on the no call grounding? fricker threw a TD the very next play. 
Posted on 12/28/21 at 7:49 pm to bluedragon
quote:If players get ejected for screwing up royally then why not for officials?
They review every play.
It's not like it'd hurt to have a couple extra and then you make too bad a call, you don't get paid, and next man up.
Posted on 12/28/21 at 8:09 pm to Aubie Spr96
The first targeting was reversed after review, so I’ll say kudos and good job by the refs. The second (?) one where Smoke went for the dudes head was a clear targeting. The one by Simpson was targeting by the rule, but man it’s so tough to change your momentum in a split second when the runner all the sudden “gives himself up” and you’re going full speed at him. They need to be more reasonable and figure out how to make it a little more fair towards the defense, hopefully starting with removing the ejection piece of it.
The missed grounding call was awful and was pretty much the difference in the game since they scored the next play. Smart of them to pick on the sub for Simpson. If our offense wasn’t so abysmal then it wouldn’t have mattered so much anyway.
The missed grounding call was awful and was pretty much the difference in the game since they scored the next play. Smart of them to pick on the sub for Simpson. If our offense wasn’t so abysmal then it wouldn’t have mattered so much anyway.
Posted on 12/28/21 at 8:18 pm to Aubie Spr96
This was a PAC-12 crew.
The grounding call was the most egregious Miss of the day. That likely changes the outcome.
The grounding call was the most egregious Miss of the day. That likely changes the outcome.
Posted on 12/28/21 at 8:35 pm to Rig
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If players get ejected for screwing up royally then why not for officials?
You will never learn of an Official getting fired midseason or at the end of a season. Unless he's your neighbor. And yes, they do get fired.
Posted on 12/28/21 at 8:58 pm to kung fu kenny
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The one by Simpson was targeting by the rule
Other then unnecessary roughness on the play did the helmet or shoulder ever hit his head. Looked like on the replay that Simpsons forearm hit the helmet but i've been know to see those plays in orange and blue glasses.
My issue with the giving yourself up with a slide it should be well before possible contact and with what the Pitt QB did with the fake slide that play should have been blown dead at the spot he showed he was going to slide. Plus in todays game the QB was not giving himself up on any other run he was taking on linebackers but this time decides to slide.
Posted on 12/29/21 at 9:29 am to CorchJay
How about the non call on holding on their last touch down even the commentators commented on it.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:31 am to NewbombII
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The first targeting was reversed after review
The Back Judge threw the first flag. He had no business throwing that flag from behind the play. His view violated every tenant in the book. "See it from start to finish." He had no angle and had no clear view. Replay did the right thing and overturned it.
There are four officials looking into that play. Side, Field, Line Judges and Head Linesman.
The way the NCAA does this ....Targeting is like the non forgivable call. Flag it and it's determined to be wrong ...NCAA is so anal about this piece of work ...the mistake is overlooked. But I guarantee that if the booth calls one and no flag on the field ....and the booth is right .....anyone with a striped shirt on the field ...gets dinged
Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:57 am to bluedragon
Yes we can. Officiating last night was horrible.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 10:23 am to NewbombII
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How about the non call on holding on their last touch down even the commentators commented on it.
That color commentator was really good IMO. He saw a lot of things, like the OL holding, and some other things he pointed out that were good observations.
And on that no grounding call?
How can a ref NOT call it, when the intent of the throw was no where, not even close to a WR in the vicinity to catch it. JUst b/c the WR is in the flat, but the QB's intent is to get rid of it, while he is in the pocket, to keep from getting a sack on a critical drive...is an obvious intentional grounding penalty...
Posted on 12/30/21 at 12:15 pm to Aubie Spr96
quote:This is obviously anecdotal but I think I watch enough PAC-12 sports to make a comparison to the SEC. The SEC has the most incompetent officiating crews in every sport I've watched and its not close. Its awful. I'm not watching women's softball or other obscure sports but for the big 3 men's sports the SEC officiating is pathetic.
The targeting call has got to fricking go. Holy shite they are ruining football. That ejection of Smoke was bullshite. They didn’t even call it on the field! They reviewed the play and called it afterwards.
Then the second targeting at the end of the game coupled with the non-call on the grounding. What a shitshow. What conference were those clowns from?
One theory I have is that the SEC compared to other conferences is overly-managed by the SEC office. Often times you see reviews that are initiated by someone in a video room 200 miles from the game in the SEC. That never, or very seldom happens in PAC-12 games I've watched.
To me its just so unbelievable that the SEC is so bad with their officiating crews. Other leagues aren't perfect, but they are better than the SEC in spades.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 12:17 pm to Aubie Spr96
If you are blaming the refs, you got your arse beat. Reality is we have AAC talent and OP is trying to blame a few suspect calls. Don't lead with your head. That has been drilled into every football player since Pee Wee.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 12:37 pm to AUCE05
quote:OP may be inferring that, but what I'm saying is that SEC officiating is so bad that it makes things not credible in a sporting contest. There may have been an Alabama bias at some point in the conference, but what I'm saying is that the performance of SEC officials just getting basic things correct is terrible. Its akin to hearing someone describe the definition of a word, that is NOT the definition of the word. This happens a half a dozen times per game with SEC officials. Even the booth people for TV can't predict it. It doesn't benefit anyone specificially it just erodes the fairness of all the games.
If you are blaming the refs, you got your arse beat. Reality is we have AAC talent and OP is trying to blame a few suspect calls. Don't lead with your head. That has been drilled into every football player since Pee Wee.
Posted on 12/30/21 at 12:39 pm to alpinetiger
Officiating is typically only noticeable when you don't have the talent to compete vs your competitors.
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