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Kirby going with Stet

Posted on 12/6/21 at 10:55 am
Posted by Sandwich
Georgia
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 10:55 am
I am starting to believe that Kirby is riding with Stetson simply on his mobility. We all know Daniels is a statue in the pocket and you just don't see that much anymore. I believe JT is the better pure passer and I'm not sure anyone can argue against that.

Maybe he is finally figuring out that traditional pocket guys are kinda on the way out. Obviously their are exceptions, but overall most have a QB who can chunk it AND has mobility at least to avoid Sacks. Bryce was flushed a few times and was able to roll out and make plays.

Do you guys agree?

Posted by LarryCulpepper
Member since May 2018
492 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 10:55 am to
That mobility really helped us Saturday. Against a mostly nickel package.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88720 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:00 am to
I would rather throw for more completions and 100 more yards but lose 20 yards from sacks opposed to throwing for less yards, scrambling for 20 positive rush yards, and giving the other team 7 points.

Posted by DawgRff
Snellville Ga
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:01 am to
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That mobility really helped us Saturday. Against a mostly nickel package.

JT is great rolling out the pocket throwing on the run. No matter how you wanna talk Stetson up he makes too many mistakes and can't throw a deep ball. He underthrew McConkey but was bailed out by the pass interference call.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:02 am to
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
19133 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:04 am to
That snap resulted from a bama player clapping
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:04 am to
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That snap resulted from a bama player clapping


Still funny.
Posted by Lucius Clay
Member since Sep 2012
3420 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:09 am to
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We all know Daniels is a statue in the pocket and you just don't see that much anymore.


I ask seriously: Do we know that? We know he isn't dual threat. You don't design plays for him to be a runner. But statue suggests he's immobile and can't move in the pocket. I ask because through preseason, I distinctly recall Smart saying several times that Daniels is more athletic than people assume.

As far as QBs in general in college football, I think we'll see dual threats as well as pro style guys depending on what kind of supporting cast the offense has.
Posted by LarryCulpepper
Member since May 2018
492 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:10 am to
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He underthrew McConkey but was bailed out by the pass interference call


he underthrows everyone and then when Bowers is wide open he makes him climb the ladder just to make the catch. If he hit him in stride Bowers would've had 15+ YAC.

My original comment was laden with sarcasm.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
25513 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:12 am to
I think this is a combination of ego and pride from all sides, and I also think JT is the better QB
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:15 am to
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I think this is a combination of ego and pride from all sides, and I also think JT is the better QB


I figure Stetson is a pretty good QB. Kirby was put into this unenviable position by JT's injury earlier in the season. He made the choice to go with the guy who got him an undefeated regular season.

Pretty fricking obvious if you ask me. Every single one of you assholes would be bitching and moaning if JT started in the SEC championship and the same arse whipping occurred.

Sure JT is probably the better QB by the stats. But he wasn't the one who got us there.
Posted by DJuga06
Charlotte NC
Member since Oct 2018
1155 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:16 am to
I said it Saturday night and I’ll say it again. There’s a difference in throwing a 40+ yard pass trying to complete it and throwing the ball 40 yards down the field just hoping for a pass interference.
Posted by LarryCulpepper
Member since May 2018
492 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:18 am to
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Pretty fricking obvious if you ask me


Also pretty fricking obvious that we would be 12-0 with any other qb starting during the regular season.

We won in spite of Stetson not because of him.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:19 am to
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Also pretty fricking obvious that we would be 12-0 with any other qb starting during the regular season.


You don't know that. It's not a guarantee.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
25513 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:20 am to
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Every single one of you assholes would be bitching and moaning if JT started in the SEC championship and the same arse whipping occurred.


Uhh yeah? If the current qb is struggling and we have another one that’s capable of changing the momentum and flow of the game then hell yeah I’m mad the coach doesn’t try something.
Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:21 am to
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Uhh yeah? If the current qb is struggling and we have another one that’s capable of changing the momentum and flow of the game then hell yeah I’m mad the coach doesn’t try something.



I will agree with you that, once Stetson clearly wasn't working DURING the game, It's on Kirby to make the change. Try something to stem the bleeding.

But Stetson earned that start.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
25513 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:22 am to
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Sure JT is probably the better QB by the stats.


Forget star rankings. JT is probably the better QB because he has an extremely quick release, has a stronger arm, is taller, and is more accurate and can throw bullets. Is stet more mobile? Absolutely, but he’s not a “dual threat” to the point where we bench the other guy who is a more complete quarterback.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
25513 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:24 am to
Okay and do you remember when Fromm was stinking it up against lsu a few years back and smart wouldn’t even try out fields just to see? It wasn’t working. THATS why this seems eerily similar, along with other things
Posted by SidewalkDawg
Chair
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:28 am to
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Okay and do you remember when Fromm was stinking it up against lsu a few years back and smart wouldn’t even try out fields just to see? It wasn’t working. THATS why this seems eerily similar, along with other things


Yep, by all means, bash Kirby for his in game decisions. I'm right there with you.

Starting Stetson wasn't a mistake. Despite JT being the better QB, he hasn't taken a meaningful snap in months. We have no idea how he would handle that.
Posted by Buddy2012
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
2927 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:28 am to
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We won in spite of Stetson not because of him.


The "in spite of" part is really unfair IMHO. Still, he is a QB you can "win with" not "because of".
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