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re: YOUR AUBURN TIGERS ARE MAUI CHAMPIONS . . make this the season long thread mods

Posted on 11/26/24 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by auburnnyc94
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 12:40 pm to
NET is not released yet. First one comes out next week. My guess is you are looking at last years
Posted by jsmoove
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by lowspark12
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 1:14 pm to
Kenpom is not a resume tool… it’s a gambling tool… it’s trying to strip out the bias and gain an advantage on vegas.

The fact auburn was favored by 4.5 but only won by 2… doesn’t surprise me we dropped slightly.
Posted by jsmoove
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 2:00 pm to
The committee does actually use Kenpom and factors it in. Think it was Summer of George the other day that said something about betting lines using Torvik or something.
Posted by auburnnyc94
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 2:19 pm to
They’ve used kenpom on the team sheets and added Torvik this year. They are still predictive metrics, not resume based. But the committee does look at them.

Yeah the NET you posted says updated through March 17.

I expect we will be top 2 or 3 in NET when it comes out next week even if we drop 1 of these next 2 because there is a resume component.
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 2:25 pm to
I get that…. Just no reason to be annoyed with Kenpom or any other prediction metric… it’s just a math formula.
Posted by awestruck
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

quote:
Real danger, at least from last night, was getting so pumped upped you had to watch the next game for a while.


I think we’re the final game tonight
Phew

That's a relief.
Posted by AuburnTigers
9x National Champion
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 2:29 pm to
Auburn beat two top 5 teams, has the best wins in college basketball and were not number 1?

This post was edited on 11/26/24 at 2:30 pm
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 2:44 pm to
I was trying to explain to my son yesterday before the game about how basketball (specifically CBB) is very random… it’s just 40 minutes… a couple guys get hot and you can end up losing. I told him auburn is probably better than ISU and if they played 10 times AU prob wins 6 of them… but that doesn’t really mean shite.

That’s how you need to look at metrics like Kenpom… they are predicting an outcome… but the randomness of an individual game makes using these metrics in head to head situations virtually pointless.
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 2:47 pm to
That’s why the tourney, while maybe the most fun postseason format in sports, is not really a good way to figure who the best team is
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 2:49 pm to
Ya… it’s a terrible way to crown a champion… but it’s entertaining as hell.
Posted by Bigbens42
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:02 pm to
It can be hard to wrap your head around the fact that we’re behind a team we beat head to head on a “neutral” site in KenPom, and 2 of them in Torvik, but these rankings are not results oriented like, for example, RPI, which is exclusively results oriented. (Or used to be before they introduced quadrants in an attempt to rectify its flaws.)
Posted by jsmoove
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:29 pm to
Hell, we're even 5th in RPI
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 3:30 pm to
Long season. Let's just enjoy the moment.
Posted by Bigbens42
Trussvegas
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 4:10 pm to
Wow Colorado is up on UConn right now
Posted by Bigbens42
Trussvegas
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

Hell, we're even 5th in RPI


Just like the advanced metrics RPI is still GIGO this early.
Posted by Bigbens42
Trussvegas
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 4:23 pm to
quote:

Just like the advanced metrics RPI is still GIGO this early.


The way RPI works the wins over Houston and ISU actually hurt us right now. Both of them are outside of the top 100. Everyone with a brain knows Houston isn’t 103rd in the country and ISU isn’t 213th lol.
Posted by Bigbens42
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 4:33 pm to
Colorado and UConn coming down to the wire.
Posted by Bigbens42
Trussvegas
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 4:36 pm to
Colorado will get the last shot down 1 with 20 seconds on the clock.
Posted by Bigbens42
Trussvegas
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Posted on 11/26/24 at 4:41 pm to
Down goes UConn. Man they are having a bad time in Maui.
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