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Why never play 2 big men together? Broome and Cardwell?

Posted on 3/24/24 at 11:11 am
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 11:11 am
This seemed like a strength of our depth, but we never played them together? I get they subbed each other so we could basically always have a big, but when the other team only has one and we have two does it not also make sense to just play them both at times and pound it down low while also working to get their big man to overcompensate and foul? I had this question last year too?
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
36440 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 11:13 am to
Broome and Jwill were our strength
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20429 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 11:25 am to
Certainly, I don’t mean to say that Cardwell was a starter. But Jwill is a 3 or a 4 not a true 5. The key to winning most tournaments is have some flexibility and depth. I can’t remember the last time seeing Broome and Cardwell play together? Maybe it just didn’t work? But say against Yale, you have Wolf guarding Broome who did they have to guard Cardwell? Spread them out and give it to Broome to work it down and then Cardwell to get open on the other side of the basket, just seems like a damn good option? Now if the other team has multiple guys that can guard both Broome and Cardwell,I get it don’t do it. But Yale was very limited, if Wolf had been in foul trouble earlier than even Auburn playing poorly we would have likely won easily.

ETA: this has been how Bruce did the roster in the past also as far as I can remember. Sticking to the one game plan. Just like a lot of subbing.

A lot of subbing is fantastic if you have a lot of guys playing well, but if you get a couple players hot or someone playing terrible then continuing to sub and hurting your team makes no sense.
This post was edited on 3/24/24 at 11:29 am
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
26692 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 11:38 am to
Because Broome was at his best one on one in the paint. Teams were already doubling him there. Adding more bodies to the paint would have completely nullified him and Cardwell’s offensive bag consists of dunking.
This post was edited on 3/24/24 at 11:39 am
Posted by tiggerfan02 2021
HSV
Member since Jan 2021
2884 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 11:52 am to
Short answer is that is not how Bruce runs his offense. He has never used 2 post players, and you can't revamp your offensive sets in the middle of a game when you haven't practiced them. At that point you'd just be playing street ball.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20429 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 12:27 pm to
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Short answer is that is not how Bruce runs his offense. He has never used 2 post players, and you can't revamp your offensive sets in the middle of a game when you haven't practiced them. At that point you'd just be playing street ball.


I can accept that, but he’s never going to win it all sticking to one plan. Few coaches will. Most great coaches change to their teams strengths to some degree. I’m not saying play 2 5s, but you could have one of them shift to a different position occasionally.

We just had it, and it was a strength. So I don’t understand sticking to a philosophy that’s against your strengths. But Bruce is the coach so it is what it is.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 3/24/24 at 12:29 pm to
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Because Broome was at his best one on one in the paint. Teams were already doubling him there. Adding more bodies to the paint would have completely nullified him and Cardwell’s offensive bag consists of dunking.


Sure, and I can accept that at times. But Broome wasn’t always in the paint, he even would move outside to the 3 point line on occasion.

I could make an argument Broome could have been better at times as a power 4 with another big man. I don’t have experience with seeing it and maybe it never worked.

But again, Yale had nothing big outside of Wolf. I’m just not sure in those instances why pressing the hell out of the paint doesn’t make sense.
Posted by goatsammich
North Alabama
Member since Jun 2023
60 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 4:24 pm to
I'm not saying it wouldn't work playing both bigs together, but pretty much no one does that anymore. Some teams don't play any post players.
Posted by sbr2
Member since Apr 2011
15013 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 6:38 pm to
Have you not seen Cardwell taking entry paint passes? Looked like his hands were coated in butter most of the time - his game is above the rim or right under it - not getting to the rim with bodies in the way.
Posted by CorchJay
Member since Nov 2018
16576 posts
Posted on 3/24/24 at 6:50 pm to
Kind of the same reason that no ones runs the notre dame box offense anymore in football. Crowds the line of scrimmage to much much like 2 bigs clogs the paint for flex cut action or cutters to the basket so you would essentially make all your guards just be spot up shooters. And a zone offense unless you’re extremely good in a high post game to break a zone down.
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