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Why does our offense panic against good opponents?
Posted on 10/27/19 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 10/27/19 at 1:41 pm
Are there no leaders on offense that can keep everyone on the same page?
Posted on 10/27/19 at 1:45 pm to ChexMix
The vast majority of our playmakers on offense are freshmen and sophomores so that likely contributes to it
Posted on 10/27/19 at 1:49 pm to ChexMix
The unit takes on the personality of its head coach?
Posted on 10/27/19 at 1:54 pm to Rig
I cant think of many leaders on offense under Gus Malzahn
2018 - ?
2017 - Kerryon Johnson
2016 - ?
2015 - ?
2014 - Nick Marshall
2013 - Tre Mason & Nick Marshall
2018 - ?
2017 - Kerryon Johnson
2016 - ?
2015 - ?
2014 - Nick Marshall
2013 - Tre Mason & Nick Marshall
Posted on 10/27/19 at 3:02 pm to ChexMix
This year things just look off. Last night when we had those 2 possessions inside our own 10 the plays to get out of those holes existed, but we failed to execute. Contrast that to Burrow's 3rd down run that extended the drive and led to a score.
This post was edited on 10/27/19 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 10/27/19 at 3:25 pm to ChexMix
IMO it all starts with not being able consistently run the ball. I know that sounds simple and obvious but that’s where it starts and ends. Out oline is average at best. Bo is not to the point we can rely on him to make plays when the running game is so poor.
First and goal from the 9 is where we should be able to line up and get 5 or 6 and then from there the run is respected. The a lot of stuff opens up. Unfortunately we simply do not have the line to consistently get 4,5,6 yards at a clip.
Sure we’ll have a back find a hole and dart out for a big gain a or two but not being able to consistently line up and run the ball kills this offense. Jmo
First and goal from the 9 is where we should be able to line up and get 5 or 6 and then from there the run is respected. The a lot of stuff opens up. Unfortunately we simply do not have the line to consistently get 4,5,6 yards at a clip.
Sure we’ll have a back find a hole and dart out for a big gain a or two but not being able to consistently line up and run the ball kills this offense. Jmo
Posted on 10/27/19 at 3:43 pm to ChexMix
Softness against teams with SEC DLs. Our OL has the size, but we're missing grit, a nasty attitude. Good OLs have players with a street alley mentality on the field. Notre Dame has the same problem, Book has to scramble constantly and some of their OL are draft projected. Michigan pushed it in easily last night.
Gus's WR playbook on many plays with most running way past the sticks and outside the numbers does not help a young QB struggling with accuracy. But Gus called some good passing plays yesterday with slants, Schwartz on a hitch, comeback routes, Canella and Hastings got open multiple times, sometimes inside.. Nix was just not hitting them, and on most Gus was not making him make reads, just pre-snap keys. Even screens weren't there because of blocking engagement effort. WRs could use some nastiness infusion as well but it's harder to motivate when they're not even getting a chance at the ball, sans Seth.
I think Gus is coddling Nix too much like he has coddled many players in the past. That's one major reason why transfer QBs have succeeded, they already had mental toughness and there was no coddling.
We need a nasty attitude on O at most positions like the defense has, like the 2000s AU OLs, like great AU RBs have had. Gus can be a nice, religious guy but he also has to have a hard-edge his players can emulate.
Gus's WR playbook on many plays with most running way past the sticks and outside the numbers does not help a young QB struggling with accuracy. But Gus called some good passing plays yesterday with slants, Schwartz on a hitch, comeback routes, Canella and Hastings got open multiple times, sometimes inside.. Nix was just not hitting them, and on most Gus was not making him make reads, just pre-snap keys. Even screens weren't there because of blocking engagement effort. WRs could use some nastiness infusion as well but it's harder to motivate when they're not even getting a chance at the ball, sans Seth.
I think Gus is coddling Nix too much like he has coddled many players in the past. That's one major reason why transfer QBs have succeeded, they already had mental toughness and there was no coddling.
We need a nasty attitude on O at most positions like the defense has, like the 2000s AU OLs, like great AU RBs have had. Gus can be a nice, religious guy but he also has to have a hard-edge his players can emulate.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 4:03 pm to ChexMix
I know Nix is a true freshman but this loss is squarely on his shoulders. He couldn't make even the basic throws last night because he panicked or cant handle the moment. I'm still stunned Gus didn't try Gatewood for a series or two considering how poorly Nix played. Nix just isn't ready for primetime. Maybe none of our QBs are and yet we still had a chance to win. Just makes it that much more frustrating.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 4:09 pm to Tickytiger
Could not believe he didn’t at least run Gatewood out for a series or two just to calm Bo down. Well on second thought yes I can....
Posted on 10/27/19 at 4:10 pm to EddieFelson
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IMO it all starts with not being able consistently run the ball
This right here. Gus' offense HAS to be able to run to work. 2013 and 2017 could run just about at will, and those teams were effective on offense. Every other year...not so much. When the run game isnt working, Gus has to go to his elementary passing game. No DC in the SEC is scared of the 2 or 3 man routes that Auburn runs because they still have numbers to send at least one extra guy while covering up everyone.
It is ridiculous that fans sitting on the couch can point out the deficiencies of the offense when the guy who literally wrote a book on offensive philosophy refuses to change what ain't working.
This post was edited on 10/27/19 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 10/27/19 at 4:14 pm to IAmNERD
It's mind boggling to me that we don't have a run heavy package where we go out with Joey and attempt to impose our will on the other team. In my mind it would provide a great change of pace and would also force teams to prepare for it. I naively assumed that would be how Gus used Joey this season.
Nope...we still run reverses and flee flicker wildcat passes as a part of our base offense. I don't blame Gus for Bo not making the plays that need to be made, but I do blame Gus for not giving Joey a shot or trying something else when its obvious things aren't working.
Nope...we still run reverses and flee flicker wildcat passes as a part of our base offense. I don't blame Gus for Bo not making the plays that need to be made, but I do blame Gus for not giving Joey a shot or trying something else when its obvious things aren't working.
Posted on 10/27/19 at 5:56 pm to ChexMix
In a vacuum, a non-AU/SEC fan watching yesterday's game might think it was a case of Auburn grossly underachieving on offense. Unfortunately, it's not a vacuum but rather a consistent pattern. A one/off loss like that is one thing, but when we've reached the point where we can correctly predict how things are gonna go down ahead of time, then it starts at the top with the HC...and as woeful as Nix has been, and believe me he's been woeful alright, I still lay it on Gus' shoulders before laying it on him. The frustrating thing is, as ineffective as Nix has been, I still think a $hitload of other coaches could develop a gameplan to make him at least look adequate out there...
Posted on 10/27/19 at 7:27 pm to Tigerman97
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attempt to impose our will on the other team.
You seen our OL?
Posted on 10/27/19 at 7:42 pm to RandySavage
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attempt to impose our will on the other team.
You seen our OL?
Yea, I'm giving some variance for how much a true running threat QB can help an average OL. That small hesitation in run reaction at the 2nd level can allow the OL to get on block they other wise would miss.
This post was edited on 10/28/19 at 7:11 am
Posted on 10/27/19 at 8:16 pm to vandelay industries
Gameplan? What gameplan works when the kid cant hit a receiver in stride 5-10 yards away?
Posted on 10/27/19 at 9:50 pm to Tickytiger
One where he's not being asked to carry the offense on his shoulders while simultaneously running for his life, that'd be a good start.
I mean, Nix definitely is having his issues, but against formidable opponents, the opposing D plays like they don't even have to think out there, our gameplan is that simple...
I mean, Nix definitely is having his issues, but against formidable opponents, the opposing D plays like they don't even have to think out there, our gameplan is that simple...
Posted on 10/27/19 at 10:22 pm to vandelay industries
A gamelan that doesn't require the QB to carry the burden? Like running 65% of the time? That's what we do.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 7:31 am to vandelay industries
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A one/off loss like that is one thing, but when we've reached the point where we can correctly predict how things are gonna go down ahead of time, then it starts at the top with the HC
Me and every friend of mine that is an Auburn fan knew this was how this season would shape out. And that is not me bragging or thinking I am a know it all, its just the facts. It is so easy to tell when things are about to go south with Gus bc we have seen it every year.
It has gotten to the point where I am only mad about a loss like LSU for about ten minutes and then I am over it. I am numb to it at this point. No post game discussion with the friends in our group message. Nothing. I think everyone is just over it, it is expected.
Posted on 10/28/19 at 5:19 pm to ChexMix
Our o-line coaching is shite period. No run game means Bo scrambling for his life and wearing a mud mask and with his complexion he needs it.
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