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re: What I’m hearing (coaching search)

Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:41 pm to
Posted by AUFiend
Member since Nov 2022
166 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:41 pm to
Right. I don't think any coordinators are being forced on any HC. say what you want about Cohen or whoever, but i think there's been some kind of negotiations and planning going on behind the scenes for a while now and what you're seeing is everyone trying to be on the same page.
Posted by Poker Dough
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2018
9725 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:44 pm to
LSU gets Kiffin, Arkansas gets Dabo, and Auburn gets....Sumrall

We made the biggest splash
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
20684 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:47 pm to
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So, I know, I know, it's Mike G. but according to him and Dukes on the latest War Rapport, the ACC OC that he mentioned that all the HC candidates agreed to is Buster Faulkner at Ga. Tech.


Nothing against Buster, but the idea that we are essentially tying head coaching candidates hands as a condition of the job to a coordinator that is not connected to the school in any way is a terrible idea. If this is true, and I’m John Sumrall, I’m telling Auburn to kick rocks as soon as OM offers.
Posted by 88TIger
Member since Nov 2012
3347 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:47 pm to
quote:

You use transitive property.


And you are bad at information retention. I stated earlier about Transitive and it wasn't good but then pointed out the standings who you keep saying is 5-5 but yet they are still above your boy that you keep touting.

Face it. You aren't going to get who you want nor will most of us.

Past few searches my guys weren't picked. The guys I did went on to do pretty darn well.

If Sumrall is the one then so be it. I think we will be better off than with Brohm. If you just want offense then take petrino as he has more success than Brohm + NIL + portal if you are looking at Louisville
Posted by AUFiend
Member since Nov 2022
166 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:52 pm to
Who cares about making the biggest splash? you've made it clear you can't stand Sumrall. It's not even certain that we will hire Sumrall, although i feel like that's who it's going to be and has been from the start. no coach is a sure bet to replicate what they've done at a previous stop. Jimbo and Brian Kelly are great examples of this. Would i prefer other candidates? yes, a few. but if it's Sumrall, i don't hate it and i'll be on board.
Posted by 88TIger
Member since Nov 2012
3347 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:54 pm to
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Arkansas gets Dabo


Where did you hear this?

Dabo isn't going there. Arky will have a tough time getting a great coach unless they go for a lower tier that does a great job at development. They aren't putting in the money now...they may in the future, they don't have a foot in the Dallas recruiting market because both TX & ATM are in the SEC. It is hard to get to the stadium for a weekend game for a lot of parents.

They have not put the money in that other programs have so far. They talked about stepping up...remains to be seen. If it was such a great place then why did Franklin choose VT instead of Arky? Many reasons why if you are him...easier path to the playoffs.
Posted by AUFiend
Member since Nov 2022
166 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 10:56 pm to
Who says we're tying their hands? that implies that they don't have a choice in the matter. "IF" what Mike G. says is true and that all of the candidates agreed, then that means that they were perfectly fine with it. and like you say, if they weren't fine with it, then they probably did tell Cohen, thanks but no thanks.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
20684 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 11:00 pm to
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that implies that they don't have a choice in the matter.


If you’re requiring candidates to agree to a particular coach / coordinator as a condition of the job, they don’t have a choice in the matter.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
49989 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 11:01 pm to
That depends on how much autonomy Sumrall needs right away. He might be chill with a couple upgrades.

Buster is a better OC than he probably has in Tulane. If he wants a successful tenure as a P4 coach he should receive confidence in the due diligence and initiative of the AD.

I admit the coach might feel slighted but if he examines the situation he might warm up to it.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
44848 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 11:05 pm to
It could also be apart of the agreement to let him coach through the CFP. He could be tied up until January and would need help in the intermediate period.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
49989 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 11:05 pm to
quote:

If you’re requiring candidates to agree to a particular coach / coordinator as a condition of the job, they don’t have a choice in the matter.

They say thanks but no thanks.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22876 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 11:06 pm to
quote:

Buster is a better OC than he probably has at Tulane.


Is he better than Derrick Nix?
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
49989 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 11:09 pm to
I don't know dude. I hope so. I have a one game sample size of Derrick as the legitimate OC.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
49989 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 11:10 pm to
Could be!
Posted by AUFiend
Member since Nov 2022
166 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 11:10 pm to
I don't think anybody could know that for certain, due to there being very little data to point to with Nix, but GT has the #1 offense in the country (YPG), right now.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
20684 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 11:18 pm to
It’s not simply about how good Buster is as an OC, it’s about chemistry between he and Sumrall. Their philosophies have to align. You’re introducing a dynamic where the OC doesn’t answer to the HC, he answers to Cohen and the boosters behind him. If you’re going to dictate his coordinators as a condition of the job, you’ve hired a figurehead not a HC.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
49989 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 11:24 pm to
Certainly odd and can be negative.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
20684 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 11:29 pm to
I really hope this isn’t true. If your front runners consist of guys you don’t trust enough to put together their own staff, you’re screwed.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22876 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 11:33 pm to
Maybe Auburn's PTB would like to have Sumrall but are afraid that he will bring his staff from Tulane. That suggests that they believe he needs a staff of higher caliber in order to be successful at Auburn.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
44848 posts
Posted on 11/21/25 at 11:39 pm to
Well, if he is the guy that crew he has now won't cut it.
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