re: Wash Your Hands Thread

I get where you are coming from but this is entirely different. Handouts are being done just to do them. If they don't figure out a way to help folks, our economy is fricked for years.

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People need to learn to be self sufficient. Dont live check to check.

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Easier to do when you are still getting a paycheck than when it's taken away altogether. I'm amazed that there are people who couldn't scrounge $400 for an emergency if they had to, but there are a LOT of them out there.

I have two car payments, one mortgage, student loans for both, and two kids. 80 percent of my paycheck is gone every paycheck.

I do have great health insurance, TSP( military and civilian,) a FERS retirement, and about 1000 tucked away as my saving grace. The 1000 is not meant to be used. My wife doesn’t know about it because she would want to spend it.

And I agree with your previous post. Gadsden is just now suffering from Goodyear shutting down. Times were already uncertain here for many.

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Easier to do when you are still getting a paycheck than when it's taken away altogether. I'm amazed that there are people who couldn't scrounge $400 for an emergency if they had to, but there are a LOT of them out there.

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Too many people have comforts that they are a custom to having and zero savings. Its just the way of the times.

Lets just live paycheck to paycheck but have 5 TV's, two new cars and a couple $1,000 cell phones.

As long as people are bailed out, they will never change. There is no reason that more people dont have a couple months atleast worth of savings to survive on. Its really just irresponsible.

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Studies already shown it’s struggling with sunlight, warmth, and humidity

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You got one of them right......humidity. I heard a Dr. lady talking about it this morning. She has studied coronavirus and another virus I can't remember right now for the last eight years. She did say humidity slows the passing of it. She said dry heat didn't show any affects in slowing it down. Hopefully it will start getting humid soon.

If you look at the numbers, places like Australia and Africa haven't been affected much. I am not sure if they aren't testing enough or if it is because of their climate.

ETA Not the Dr. I heard, but..........

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If the climate conditions are extremely cold or very hot and humid, the virus is “largely absent,” the study showed. The results of the study were reported by Bloomberg News on Monday.

According to the study, people in tropical and polar climates are unlikely to see local transmission of COVID-19 cases.

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A study published in 2011 that looked at other coronaviruses also showed that higher temperatures and humidity tend to result in the viruses dying more quickly.

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Dr. Alan Evangelista, a microbiology and virology professor at St. Christopher’s Hospital for Children in Philadelphia, told ABC News that studies he has conducted found results similar to the other studies.

Evangelista said his research showed, “As humidity increases, the viral droplet size is larger and settles out of the air rapidly.”

COVID-19 is believed to be spread by viral droplets that are injected into the air when a person coughs or sneezes, and them land on someone nearby. “In contrast, in low humidity, there is rapid evaporation of respiratory droplets,” he continued. “They remain airborne for prolonged periods, increasing the time and distance over which transmission can occur.”

Evangelista, who has studied common coronaviruses and influenza particles for eight years, said his work indicates that because of the size of the droplet, “transmission is highly efficient under drier and colder conditions,” but far less so in a humid environment.

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but then you have this.......

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While the results seem promising for a slowdown of the virus’ transmission as the weather gets warmer, other researchers question whether weather conditions actually have a great effect on the virus’ ability to spread.

“While we may expect modest declines in the contagiousness of [the novel coronavirus] in warmer, wetter weather,” according to Dr. Marc Lipsitch, a Harvard epidemiologist, “it is not reasonable to expect these declines alone to slow transmission enough to make a big dent.”

As of Tuesday, more than 5,900 Americans have tested positive for COVID-19, with the disease killing 99.

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You either didn't read the article or you didn't comprehend it.

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Evangelista said his research showed, “As humidity increases, the viral droplet size is larger and settles out of the air rapidly.”

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Evangelista, who has studied common coronaviruses and influenza particles for eight years, said his work indicates that because of the size of the droplet, “transmission is highly efficient under drier and colder conditions,” but far less so in a humid environment.

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ETA Just for reference..........if you have ever been to say Arizona in July, you will know the difference in a dry heat vs. our summers.

Post the links, please. I want to know all about this I can.

ETA I don't want to get this and I sure as hell don't want to pass it along.

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Not a study but an article.

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However, John Nicholls, a pathology professor at the University of Hong Kong, says he knows when the virus will become inactive.

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"Three things the virus does not like: 1. Sunlight, 2. Temperature, and 3. Humidity," Nicholls said in response to a question about when he thinks confirmed cases will peak.

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"Sunlight will cut the virus' ability to grow in half so the half-life will be 2.5 minutes and in the dark it's about 13 to 20 [minutes]," Nicholls said. "Sunlight is really good at killing viruses."

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At the University of Hong Kong, Nicholls has spent the past 25 years studying coronavirus and he served as a key member of the team that characterized SARS. The Hong Kong University Faculty of Medicine's Clinical Research Centre also created the world's first lab-grown copy of novel coronavirus, according to CNN correspondent Kristie Lu Stout, giving researchers a major breakthrough in understanding the behavior of the virus.

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Not the original study I read but I can’t always find what I’ve read in my rabbit holes

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Using the daily R values from January 21 to 23, 2020 as proxies of non-intervened transmission intensity, we find, under a linear regression framework for 100 Chinese cities, high temperature and high relative humidity significantly reduce the transmission of COVID-19, respectively, even after controlling for population density and GDP per capita of cities.

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Thanks. Good stuff. I hope we find a cure or something slows this thing down.