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Thoughts about loss vs. UF

Posted on 10/6/19 at 12:43 pm
Posted by AuburnPanic40
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 12:43 pm
- Bo Nix playing like a freshman was inevitable, it happened on Saturday
- I was at the game, and the Swamp is all it’s hyped up to be, loud, electric, intimidating and it undoubtedly rattled not only Nix but the entire offense.
- Gus’ play calling was piss poor, but it wasn’t all on him. Grantham called a great game and the UF defense is legit. They fed off the crowd energy.
- We cannot win if we wait until the second half to run the ball and expect Nix to win games like that for us and that’s on Gus.
- Run blocking was atrocious and that was evident on the multiple 3rd and shorts we failed to convert.
- Defense played great, but was gassed by 4th quarter because our offense was hot garbage. This game isn’t on them.
- UF picked us apart when we ran zone, we had most of our success when we were running man and we should’ve stuck to it.
- This loss isn’t the end of the world, and it may have been the gut check we needed, I don’t think Gus has regressed to being completely inept after a single game and Nix will improve. The UF game exposed our weaknesses and I think that’s necessary if we are going to continue improving.
- LSU will be a referendum on Gus’ tenure at Auburn and this season, if we win, we will make a run, if we lose, it may be time to seriously re-evaluate some things.

It’s not time to panic.... yet. The LSU game will define this season but I still think we’ve got a shot at something special. Also, don’t be one of those retards attacking Nix on social media, etc. He’s still just a kid and he had a bad game. shite happens. WDE.
Posted by Tigerman97
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 12:47 pm to
I will believe we can beat LSU in BR when it happens.

I still think our best chance to pick up a win against the remaining 3 is probably uga or bama.
Posted by AuburnPanic40
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 12:49 pm to
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UGA is absolutely beatable. I like our chances against them.
Posted by Tigerman97
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 12:52 pm to
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UGA is absolutely beatable. I like our chances against them.



I'm supportive of Gus generally, but I don't like our chances against any top line DL's. Blame it on play calling, blame it on the OL, blame it on not have a transcendent running QB...but one thing is certain in the last 7 seasons if we played a DL with NFL talent our O is going to look lost for large stretches of the game.
Posted by jangalang
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 12:52 pm to
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Also, don’t be one of those retards attacking Nix on social media, etc.

Link it. That group needs to be thrown to the wolves.
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LSU will be a referendum on Gus’ tenure at Auburn and this season, if we win, we will make a run, if we lose, it may be time to seriously re-evaluate some things.

It’s critical that we show up against LSU, Georgia, and Bama. The way we look and perform then will determine everything.
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- I was at the game, and the Swamp is all it’s hyped up to be, loud, electric, intimidating and it undoubtedly rattled not only Nix but the entire offense.

This still seems like a weak excuse to me. CBS showed a graphic of Florida’s homecoming swoons (lost to Missouri 38-17 in one loss.) Fact of the matter is we played timid and didn’t take the crowd out of the game.
Posted by AuburnPanic40
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 1:08 pm to
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Link it. That group needs to be thrown to the wolves.

Bo’s last Instagram post. Scroll to bottom of comments.
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This still seems like a weak excuse to me.

Maybe, but even after we scored on that long pass/after UF turnovers the crowd was nuts. I was in the nosebleeds and it was deafening even for me. It was 2017 UGA/Bama at JHS levels of loud. The Swamp when it’s really going is just as loud as LSU, imo.
Posted by McCalebbUpTheMiddle
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 1:08 pm to
I’m hoping we somehow have a mid season turnaround like after the ugly loss at Clemson in 2017. Sure that game was earlier in the season, but I remember having the same sentiments: defense doesn’t deserve an offense this terrible; our offense is screwed; QB played terrible. And we ultimately went on a tear the rest of the year.

I agree, a win in red stick could do wonders for Gus and the squad. I’ll stay on the bus for now and see how the guys respond in a couple of weeks.
Posted by AuburnPanic40
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 1:10 pm to
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one thing is certain in the last 7 seasons if we played a DL with NFL talent our O is going to look lost for large stretches of the game.

We should at least still manage to look average/get a few first downs. We were absolutely dominated up front for 3 1/2 quarters against UF. Our defense may have put us in a position to win late if they hadn’t been gassed because of our offense and our inability to run/get first downs.
Posted by AuburnPanic40
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 1:17 pm to
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I’m hoping we somehow have a mid season turnaround like after the ugly loss at Clemson in 2017. Sure that game was earlier in the season, but I remember having the same sentiments: defense doesn’t deserve an offense this terrible; our offense is screwed; QB played terrible. And we ultimately went on a tear the rest of the year.

I completely agree, being at the game I expected to be extremely pissed/demoralized after the loss but I really wasn’t. We played like absolute shite the entire game still managed to be down only one score up until the very end. We played our worst game of the year and were still in a position to win a majority of the game. We didn’t get embarrassed or run out of the stadium. I think the people most upset after this loss are the ones who expected us to just walk in and beat the breaks off UF, and I knew that wouldn’t happen so I tampered my expectations. We will be OK. I’d much rather us have our worst game and lose against UF than LSU, UGA, Bama. This gives us an opportunity to regroup, evaluate the weaknesses exposed, and improve. I could be wrong and the doomsday people right, but LSU will determine who’s is right and who is wrong. I just didn’t feel like this was the kind of loss that would derail our season like a loss to A&M would have been. UF is a very, very good team.
Posted by Rhino5
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 1:22 pm to
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He’s still just a kid and he had a bad game.

He is just a kid, but it’s more than just a bad game.

-His completion percentage is worse than Jeremy Johnson’s and Sean White’s worst seasons.

-In 18 games White had 7 INT’s, Nix has 5 in six games.

-Jeremy Johnson had a 57.4% completion percentage during his worst season before he was benched in 2016, Nix has a 54.6% completion percentage.

-In 6 games Nix already has half as many INT’s as Jeremy Johnson did during his entire career (25 games).

-His passer rating of 127.6 is worse than Jarrett Stidham, Jeremy Johnson and Sean White.

Nix didn’t just have a “freshman bad game,” he is statically worse in several categories than J.J. and Sean White. He can get better but the schedule is only going to get harder. He needed to come out yesterday, he was overwhelmed.

Posted by AUFan2015
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 1:34 pm to
Perhaps I've become desensitized to losses but this loss didn't sting like a lot of losses do. This game might've been a blessing in disguise if what someone said about the swamp being as loud as LSU then this game might be what we needed to be prepared for the crowd noise @ LSU.

We have a bye week this week and our next game will be @ Arkansas( which isn't very good) so maybe we can work on our weaknesses these next two weeks and might pull the upset vs LSU. ( don't think it'll happen but it's a possibility) if our defense shuts down Burrow we shut down pretty much their entire offense( I've heard their run game isn't that great) problem in shutting down Burrow is we'll need our secondary to play lights out and they haven't shown they can do that yet.

That's one thing that should be worked on during the bye week. If ( that's a huge if) our secondary improves, and we shut down Burrow I like our chances to beat LSU. I'm in no way predicting we'll beat LSU I still think we lose to LSU, but if we do what I said above I like our chances to at least keep it close if not win outright.
This post was edited on 10/6/19 at 1:37 pm
Posted by Tigerman97
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 1:39 pm to
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That's one thing that should be worked on during the bye week. If ( that's a huge if) our secondary improves, and we shut down Burrow I like our chances to beat LSU. I'm in no way predicting we'll beat LSU I still think we lose to LSU, but if we do what I said above I like our chances to at least keep it close if not win outright.


I know we can beat LSU, but I doubt we will move the ball on them. I also expect they'll be successful in the same manner UF was on us, but IMO they'll do it better.
Posted by AuburnPanic40
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 1:41 pm to
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He is just a kid, but it’s more than just a bad game.

-His completion percentage is worse than Jeremy Johnson’s and Sean White’s worst seasons.

-In 18 games White had 7 INT’s, Nix has 5 in six games.

-Jeremy Johnson had a 57.4% completion percentage during his worst season before he was benched in 2016, Nix has a 54.6% completion percentage.

-In 6 games Nix already has half as many INT’s as Jeremy Johnson did during his entire career (25 games).

-His passer rating of 127.6 is worse than Jarrett Stidham, Jeremy Johnson and Sean White.

Nix didn’t just have a “freshman bad game,” he is statically worse in several categories than J.J. and Sean White. He can get better but the schedule is only going to get harder. He needed to come out yesterday, he was overwhelmed.

We're also 5-1 with him as the starter and he has limited mistakes that would put us in positions to lose outside of the UF game. He has also played better competition, won in high stress environments, and made clutch plays. Nix's performance as Auburn's starting QB is not strictly limited to numbers. Bo Nix has yet to have an absolutely abysmal performance like JJ vs. LSU, and is undoubtedly far more gifted as a QB and athlete than Sean White. Nix isn't a head case, he's just a freshman who made freshman mistakes in an extremely hostile environment.
Posted by AuburnPanic40
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 1:42 pm to
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I doubt we will move the ball on them.

Vanderbilt (!!!!) scored 38 points against LSU, this isn't the same LSU defense of old.
Posted by rbWarEagle
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 1:48 pm to
Not to mention that his incompletions are being inflated by smart throwaways where stidham, white, or Johnson would have taken a loss.
Posted by vandelay industries
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 1:54 pm to
In fairness, Nix's numbers are coming out of the gate, while JJ was given ample snaps & opportunities before getting the starting job, only to put up those eventual abysmal numbers. Neither a Nix homer or hater, but not a legit comparison (yet) IMO...
Posted by Rhino5
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 1:56 pm to
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Nix's performance as Auburn's starting QB is not strictly limited to numbers. Bo Nix has yet to have an absolutely abysmal performance like JJ

Numbers aren’t everything but they are something. And right now his aren’t very good.

And I’m not saying he’s J.J. head case, but last night was awful. 3rd and 8 in the 4th quarter and he runs 20 yards backwards. That’s cringe. He really needs a good game against Arky as a confidence booster. Death Valley is a very intimidating atmosphere as well.

Speaking of LSU, we could score on them but Burrow coukd carve up our secondary. He’s a different QB this year.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 2:02 pm to
He really did have a bad game (comparable to Cox against Georgia), but unlike JJ and SW, he has the stuff that shows be can be a good QB once things are corrected.

At least we are throwing more intermediate passes with Nix. Nix’s misfire behind Sal Canella would’ve been a hot, but safe pass from JJ any game after the LSU game. Keep pushing the issue. I’m more interested in the max efficiency and effectiveness numbers than the over inflated completion percentage numbers. Yards per play. Plays per score, etc are the metrics I prefer.
This post was edited on 10/6/19 at 2:21 pm
Posted by Tigerman97
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 2:12 pm to
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Vanderbilt (!!!!) scored 38 points against LSU, this isn't the same LSU defense of old.



I was led to believe after UK put 21 on UF we'd put up 42.
Posted by AUFan2015
Oneonta, Alabama
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 10/6/19 at 2:12 pm to
Can someone explain to me the punt on 4th and inches? Why didn't they try and go for it? I'm pretty dumb when it comes to football compared to most of you so I really don't understand the reason
This post was edited on 10/6/19 at 2:15 pm
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