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re: The coaching list

Posted on 10/23/25 at 5:16 pm to
Posted by wareaglepete
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 5:16 pm to
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Only guys with Auburn ties #fambly


They have to be able to trace your roots back to the original oaks then there has to be a sit down and then it must be blessed by the heads of the 5 Famblies.
This post was edited on 10/23/25 at 5:18 pm
Posted by TemperdTiger
Montgomery, AL
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 10/24/25 at 7:29 pm to
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
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Posted on 10/24/25 at 9:25 pm to
Saw that interview. I like that guy. He’s tops for me right now.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22928 posts
Posted on 10/25/25 at 6:31 am to
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He's tops for me right now.


Unfortunately his ability to succeed at Troy and Tulane doesn't necessarily mean that he could be successful at Auburn. It would be a risky hire. I understand that most people are not as risk averse as I am but I would really hope that Auburn could make a better hire.
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
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Posted on 10/25/25 at 6:37 am to
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Unfortunately his ability to succeed at Troy and Tulane doesn't necessarily mean that he could be successful at Auburn. It would be a risky hire. I understand that most people are not as risk averse as I am but I would really hope that Auburn could make a better hire.


Just don't think there are any home runs out there unless you could talk Urban out of retirement. I think whoever we get will come with a good amount of risk.
Posted by pdfield34
Member since Aug 2022
575 posts
Posted on 10/25/25 at 11:12 am to
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That is a job he (Sumrall) will want if it opens, from my understanding."


Wow... what an understanding. Keen insight by Nakos.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22928 posts
Posted on 10/25/25 at 11:20 am to
Have you compared Tulane's schedule to Auburn's? Other than a game against Ole Miss, it is pretty light. I would be concerned about Sumrall's ability to handle the higher quality opponents in the SEC.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 10/25/25 at 11:31 am to
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Have you compared Tulane's schedule to Auburn's? Other than a game against Ole Miss, it is pretty light. I would be concerned about Sumrall's ability to handle the higher quality opponents in the SEC.



What was Eli Drinkwitz's schedule like in his one season at Appalachian State?
What was Urban Meyer's schedule like at Utah (which was a G5 school at the time btw - in the Mountain West Conference)?

And by the way - when Lane Kiffin was resurfacing at FAU and started getting talked about again as an SEC candidate, these same arguments were made: "yeah he won 10 games, but look at their schedule".

You need to look at the qualities of a coach and decide whether they are likely to translate over to the SEC, not these stupid disqualifiers which do nothing but cause you to overlook strong candidates. A good coach will succeed anywhere.

Tulane's schedule is what it is. They are not an SEC team, so expecting them to play an SEC schedule is moronic. They also do not have an SEC roster, and therefore their schedule is appropriate for the level of their football program. They also beat a 5-2 Northwestern team this season (a P4 school) that beat a much more talented Penn State team.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22928 posts
Posted on 10/25/25 at 1:08 pm to
I don't expect Tulane to play an SEC schedule and I don't expect a coach who plays teams like East Carolina and UTSA to be qualified to coach at the level in this conference unless he has some sort of exceptional qualities.
Posted by 88TIger
Member since Nov 2012
3386 posts
Posted on 10/25/25 at 1:13 pm to
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I don't expect Tulane to play an SEC schedule and I don't expect a coach who plays teams like East Carolina and UTSA to be qualified to coach at the level in this conference unless he has some sort of exceptional qualities.


So what you are saying is no Pat Dye at Auburn. Think about that. Dye coached at East Carolina & Wyoming before here. So by what you said in your eyes he wouldn't qualify.

So serious question, who is your pick? I really have not thought about whom this time. But by your statement, I am curious as to who you want.
Posted by kung fu kenny
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2017
2097 posts
Posted on 10/25/25 at 1:20 pm to
I have asked meta and been waiting for his reply since last week. I think he’d be on board with Sumrall based on these points above?
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22928 posts
Posted on 10/25/25 at 1:22 pm to
Pat Dye had SEC experience prior to taking the job at Wyoming so your comparison is meaningless.
Who do I want? Dan Lanning would do.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
4419 posts
Posted on 10/25/25 at 1:27 pm to
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I have asked meta and been waiting for his reply since last week. I think he’d be on board with Sumrall based on these points above?



Off the top of my head I would interview:

Jon Sumrall
Jeff Brohm (no idea if he would leave his alma-mater)
Brent Key (no idea if he would leave his alma-mater)
Alex Golesh
Fran Brown (his team fell apart after their QB went down)
Brian Hartline
Will Stein

I'm not going to pretend like I follow every team/region, but I'm sure there are others worth exploring. They should talk to multiple candidates.
Posted by pdfield34
Member since Aug 2022
575 posts
Posted on 10/25/25 at 1:28 pm to
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So what you are saying is no Pat Dye at Auburn. Think about that. Dye coached at East Carolina & Wyoming before here. So by what you said in your eyes he wouldn't qualify.



But your're missing the fact that Dye played at UGA and coached at Alabama.

From his Alabama days, he was able to bring along Wayne Hall and Neil Callaway - two of the most important coaches in Auburn history.

Like it or not, a big time program that won a lot with a great coach was a huge influence on all three. That experience does not come from Troy, Tulane or Kentucky.,
Posted by Hussss
Helena, AL
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 10/25/25 at 1:30 pm to
Great list
Posted by 88TIger
Member since Nov 2012
3386 posts
Posted on 10/25/25 at 1:30 pm to
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Pat Dye had SEC experience prior to taking the job at Wyoming so your comparison is meaningless.
Who do I want? Dan Lanning would do.


No it isn't.
That is his experience. He wasn't even an OC or DC.

1965–1973 Alabama (LB/Recruiting Coordinator)
1974–1979 East Carolina
1980 Wyoming
1981–1992 Auburn

This is Jon Sumrall
2005–2006 Kentucky (GA)
2007–2009 San Diego (DL/RC)
2010–2011 San Diego (AHC/DC/LB)
2012–2013 Tulane (co-DC/DL)
2014 Tulane (co-DC/LB)
2015–2017 Troy (AHC/LB/ST)
2018 Ole Miss (LB)
2019–2020 Kentucky (ILB)
2021 Kentucky (co-DC/ILB)
2022–2023 Troy
2024–present Tulane

So your comparison is way way off. Seems he has experience in the SEC.

So do you really think we can get Dan Lanning to give up the HC at Oregon to take over this dumpster fire? So who is your realistic candidate?

Oh here is Lannings just in case
008–2010 Park Hill South HS (MO) (ST/DB/WR)
2011 Pittsburgh (GA)
2012 Arizona State (GA)
2013 Arizona State (RC)
2014 Sam Houston State (DB/co-RC)
2015 Alabama (GA)
2016–2017 Memphis (ILB/RC)
2018 Georgia (OLB)
2019–2021 Georgia (DC/OLB)
2022–present Oregon



Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
4419 posts
Posted on 10/25/25 at 1:31 pm to
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Pat Dye had SEC experience prior to taking the job at Wyoming so your comparison is meaningless.



So does Jon Sumrall, you dolt. Next you are going to spin it to suggest that experience at Ole Miss and Kentucky doesn't count for some reason.

Just so you are aware: Kentucky won 10 games in 2021 when Sumrall was on staff there.

Urban Meyer had ZERO SEC experience and had come off HC-ing two G5 programs. Let me guess: his ~3 seasons as a WR coach at Notre Dame are why he succeeded LOL? Eli Drinkwitz has ZERO SEC experience. Let me guess: his 1-2 years as a Grad Assistant at Auburn are why he is now succeeding?
Posted by FlyDownTheField
Member since Dec 2013
3146 posts
Posted on 10/25/25 at 1:33 pm to
Hugh Freeze had SEC head coaching experience and arguably success before he came here.

Should we bring him in to replace our current coach?
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22928 posts
Posted on 10/25/25 at 1:41 pm to
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So who is your realistic candidate?


I want the best for Auburn. Settling for who we can get is unlikely to yield the desired results. But if you are sold on Sumrall, that's fine. I have no confidence that there would be significant improvement under his leadership but you are welcome to believe otherwise.
Posted by 88TIger
Member since Nov 2012
3386 posts
Posted on 10/25/25 at 1:45 pm to
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But if you are sold on Sumrall, that's fine.


Never said I was sold nor pulling for him. Is he a realistic get with a decent record? Yeah will he be successful here? Not sure.

We haven't fired our coach yet. I haven't done any digging. I wanted Cig last time but the PTB thought Freeze was the next coming, others wanted Lane & Dion.

I have never had a guy I wanted picked so it doesn't matter what I want.
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