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Posted on 10/18/25 at 11:20 am to metafour
Posted on 10/18/25 at 11:20 am to metafour
Looking even further back:
In 2023 Penn State won 10 games.
Notable wins: #24 Iowa
Notable losses: #3 OSU, #3 Michigan, #11 Ole Miss
In 2022 Penn State won 11 games.
Notable wins: #8 Utah
Notable losses: #5 Michigan, #2 OSU
In 2023 Penn State won 10 games.
Notable wins: #24 Iowa
Notable losses: #3 OSU, #3 Michigan, #11 Ole Miss
In 2022 Penn State won 11 games.
Notable wins: #8 Utah
Notable losses: #5 Michigan, #2 OSU
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Posted on 10/18/25 at 11:43 am to EddieFelson
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Please point to a time where Freeze has ever averaged nearly 10 wins a year for a decade. Not to mention Franklin won 2 playoff games last year. Freeze is nowhere near the guys on your list.
You missed the point or I didn't make it clear, I am not saying they are equal in terms of wins and losses, but they are the same in the sense that they are MUCH better recruiters than they are gameday coaches.
Posted on 10/18/25 at 11:55 am to CorchJay
Where would this board be if all of the P4 guys are out of the equation and Sumrall/Chadwell/any other G5 coach says no, if they went after Charles Kelly and he brought Clint and Rick Trickett with him?
Kelly knows the state of AL as well as any other. Has ties to Florida, Georgia and Tennessee for recruiting. He has been a coordinator at the P4 level with success and has a year under his belt at the G5 level at JSU. Now, they are 4-3 at the moment, but theyre 3-0 in conference and have the 2nd best odds to win the C-USA. He is a very good secondary coach and as long as he has been at the HS/College level in the southeast, recruiting would be fine under him.
I think Rick Trickett is one of the most respected and longest tenured OL coach in the country. He's been coaching OL for what seems like 50 years, including some good ones at Auburn. His son, Clint, is an up-and-coming guy in the OC ranks (he took over OC duties at FAU after Lane left, but was the TE coach for Kiffin at FAU).
I think, outside of the best available guys such as Kiffin/Saban/Franklin that getting those 3 guys to be the core of a coaching staff would be about as good as it gets if the big fish is scared of the reputation of Auburn.
Kelly knows the state of AL as well as any other. Has ties to Florida, Georgia and Tennessee for recruiting. He has been a coordinator at the P4 level with success and has a year under his belt at the G5 level at JSU. Now, they are 4-3 at the moment, but theyre 3-0 in conference and have the 2nd best odds to win the C-USA. He is a very good secondary coach and as long as he has been at the HS/College level in the southeast, recruiting would be fine under him.
I think Rick Trickett is one of the most respected and longest tenured OL coach in the country. He's been coaching OL for what seems like 50 years, including some good ones at Auburn. His son, Clint, is an up-and-coming guy in the OC ranks (he took over OC duties at FAU after Lane left, but was the TE coach for Kiffin at FAU).
I think, outside of the best available guys such as Kiffin/Saban/Franklin that getting those 3 guys to be the core of a coaching staff would be about as good as it gets if the big fish is scared of the reputation of Auburn.
This post was edited on 10/18/25 at 11:57 am
Posted on 10/18/25 at 12:42 pm to jvilletiger25
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Yup. We wouldn’t be having this thread right now if Freeze knew what a good QB was.
He would make Ty Simpson look like Clint Moseley
Posted on 10/18/25 at 12:43 pm to AUViclic
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You missed the point or I didn't make it clear, I am not saying they are equal in terms of wins and losses, but they are the same in the sense that they are MUCH better recruiters than they are gameday coaches.
You muat have missed Franklin's tenure at Vandy
Posted on 10/18/25 at 12:44 pm to metafour
He beat everyone he was supposed to last year. Was a few yards from playing for a title. No one, including SEC schools could beat OSU. No one was beating Harbaugh UM. He is a damn good coach that took PSU to their peak. They haven't been a contender since the late 80s, and won't be with the next coach. This is a PSU issue, no a JF.
Posted on 10/18/25 at 12:45 pm to AUCE05
Whatever the case, sometimes you just need a change.
Over 10 years is plenty of time to achieve the ultimate goal.
With the professionalization of college football, a coach like Franklin's value has been greatly diminished (program builder, organizer).
Over 10 years is plenty of time to achieve the ultimate goal.
With the professionalization of college football, a coach like Franklin's value has been greatly diminished (program builder, organizer).
Posted on 10/18/25 at 12:54 pm to IAmNERD
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Kelly knows the state of AL as well as any other.
What's the value here? Charles Kelly is welcome back at Auburn any time, but not as a head coach.
Rick Trickett sucks and is a neanderthal and is so old that he is about to die.
In the unlikely scenario where we are looking at the bottom of the barrel,
we already have defense solved, just continue to pay Durkin - he is obviously as good as anyone else as everyone wants him and all other coaches think highly of him.
Posted on 10/18/25 at 12:55 pm to pdfield34
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Rick Trickett sucks and is a neanderthal and is so old that he is about to die.
Have you seen our OL for the past decade?
Posted on 10/18/25 at 12:59 pm to pdfield34
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What's the value here?
Well, we saw what hiring an outsider with no ties to the region brought with Harsin...
Posted on 10/18/25 at 1:00 pm to AUCE05
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He beat everyone he was supposed to last year. Was a few yards from playing for a title. No one, including SEC schools could beat OSU. No one was beating Harbaugh UM. He is a damn good coach that took PSU to their peak. They haven't been a contender since the late 80s, and won't be with the next coach. This is a PSU issue, no a JF.
But that has been his MO for the ~decade+ that he was there.
You can't just live on beating Maryland, Minnesota, Michigan State, etc. and losing every actual big game against teams with as much talent as you have each year. Not when Penn State has given him NIL and everything else needed to produce something other than beating the teams you are supposed to beat.
He had the game won in overtime against Oregon a few weeks ago, and he blew it. Then Indiana comes in with less talent than both Oregon and Penn State, and they outright beat Oregon. That is the repeated problem. He has been in LOTS of close games to teams like Michigan, Oregon, etc. and he always finds a way to lose.
Ok, he's not going to beat OSU. What is his excuse for getting blown out by Ole Miss two seasons ago? Kiffin himself is not infallible, nor does he have OSU's talent. Kiffin himself loses games that he shouldn't, but he ultimately out-coached Franklin that day. That game was close until the second half, where Ole Miss outscored them 18-8 as the underdog.
Franklin is the modern day Mark Richt. He fields lots of talent at a good program with resources and therefore can win the 9-10 games by beating teams worse than his own, but there are coaching ineptitudes that get exposed once they play a close game.
This post was edited on 10/18/25 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 10/18/25 at 1:05 pm to IAmNERD
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Well, we saw what hiring an outsider with no ties to the region brought with Harsin...
But this is a strawman argument. Plenty of outsiders with no ties have proven to be extremely competent hires. For example: Nick Saban at LSU, Urban Meyer at Florida.
Its like saying: "well Freeze has had maximal booster support and he is failing miserably, therefore booster support doesn't mean anything".
Harsin didn't fail because he was an outsider, he failed because of his hubris and the fact that he didn't understand the level of competition he was walking into.
Posted on 10/18/25 at 1:08 pm to metafour
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he failed because of his hubris and the fact that he didn't understand the level of competition he was walking into.
There you go.
All those others are exceptions to the rule.
This post was edited on 10/18/25 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 10/18/25 at 1:21 pm to greygoose
Exactly my thoughts towards him. I didn’t want him a few years ago and I don’t want him now.
IMO He’d be a terrible fit at Auburn anyway. He’d just burn it to the ground, trash the fans and school while shitposting on X as he left for his next paycheck in 3 years.
IMO He’d be a terrible fit at Auburn anyway. He’d just burn it to the ground, trash the fans and school while shitposting on X as he left for his next paycheck in 3 years.
Posted on 10/18/25 at 1:51 pm to Tigers of War
Would u be happy with James Franklin cause that is the real option
I would not be but wouldn’t be shocked if that was AU or IF’s best option
I would not be but wouldn’t be shocked if that was AU or IF’s best option
Posted on 10/18/25 at 1:53 pm to attalla
I would take a good 5 plus years of stability in recruiting and on the field results.
Posted on 10/18/25 at 1:54 pm to auyushu
Tulane is losing in the 4th to the Army.
Posted on 10/18/25 at 2:00 pm to wareaglepete
There r verttfew slam dunk hires.
Posted on 10/18/25 at 2:03 pm to attalla
Right. Well Sumrall sucks
Posted on 10/18/25 at 2:11 pm to jangalang
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Right. Well Sumrall sucks
A cursory review of his background would indicate that we could make a much much less risky hire. He has a slightly above average record in Group of 5.
Great.
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