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Posted on 9/22/19 at 9:56 pm to
Posted by jangalang
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Posted on 9/22/19 at 9:56 pm to
Apparently he committed.


Jake
@jakeweingarten
North Carolina snags five-star senior Walker Kessler after an official visit to campus, a source confirms to @ EvanDaniels with it first. Apparently he was blown away with his visit, has always liked UNC.
Posted by Scrimpin Gary
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Posted on 9/22/19 at 10:08 pm to
That freaking stings. Many were predicting this kid to AU. UNC wasn’t his top 2-3 schools prior to the visit either from what I’ve read.
Posted by Smoke7024
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Posted on 9/22/19 at 10:09 pm to
Yeah that came from out of nowhere.
Posted by AUNashville
New Haven
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 9/23/19 at 7:19 am to
Maybe he'll decommit if he realizes he made this decision too quickly. Perhaps he feels really good about it, and that wont happen. This stings man. We really went hard for him, and then UNC comes out of left field to get the committment...damn. I'm not losing hope though. We are still in the running for some good players.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 9/23/19 at 8:12 am to
From Hooks
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Think whatever you want but I only bring 100% up to date info when I post. I do not speculate unless I say so. Believe what you will but we did everything to land him and had it all but in the bag untill the end.....Nothing in this game is over until the player actually suits up for you.

His entire family/inner circle wanted him to go to Auburn, ended up hurting AU at the last second. He wanted to make his own decision because he’s a stubborn kid who doesn’t like listening to his parents on certain things, likes doing his own thing....so he made the worst IMHO choice of the 5 Schools he was looking at because it was “his” decision

Recruiting at this level is hard but anyone who says we lost him due to AU being not good enough or having enough history is dead wrong. I find it funny that AU losing out on him has caused some on here to "lose hope". We are still in there for a top 3 class in the nation. Now will it happne we shall see but to act as if all is lost is just wrong.
Posted by jangalang
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Posted on 9/23/19 at 8:16 am to
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Jake
@jakeweingarten
Significant Jalen Green update: Memphis, Oregon, and Auburn, all have an even shot, a reliable source told @Stockrisers. UCLA also trying to get more involved, looking to nab a visit.

Green has always been intrigued with Daishen Nix.

Interesting that Auburn is included here. Just last week his own report was he was down to Oregon and Memphis.
Posted by ellitor
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Posted on 9/23/19 at 8:17 am to
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Maybe he'll decommit if he realizes he made this decision too quickly
Doubt it. Roy wants to get back to his athletic 2 bigs system & sold WK hard on it. WK likes the idea of it, playing more 4 than 5, given his shooting range.
Posted by ellitor
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Posted on 9/23/19 at 8:20 am to
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Interesting that Auburn is included here. Just last week his own report was he was down to Oregon and Memphis.
Been a good bit of scuttle butt on the Rivals boards for a couple weeks AU was squarely in the mix. Hooks has also chimed in on it too on the 247 boards.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 9/23/19 at 8:25 am to
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Doubt it. Roy wants to get back to his athletic 2 bigs system & sold WK hard on it. WK likes the idea of it, playing more 4 than 5, given his shooting range.

Yep he was sold on having a Luke Maye role.
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 9/23/19 at 8:28 am to
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Maybe he'll decommit


Major bball recruits generally shut it down once they commit.

Something can change, but don't count on it.
Posted by ellitor
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Posted on 9/23/19 at 8:33 am to
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We are still in there for a top 3 class in the nation
Only if we land Green as a rankings upgrade at the SG & land Cliff Omoruyi at C along with the projections of Sharife & Brakefield. Sounds like Hooks is just being bitter. Here's a different view with some Kessler intel from a HS coach who posts on the bunker who has AU & UNC ties FWIW.

highlights of a post right before the commitment...

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Just spoke with someone close to the UNC coaching staff. This may not differ much from what gets reported tomorrow, but here ya go:

- Walker and family visited along with UNC's 2020 PG1 priority Caleb Love and the families hit it off. Walker's dad (Chad, who played at thUGA) is guiding and speaking for Walker's recruitment and is very candid about doing due dilligence.
- Kesslers are big on academics and Walker wants to major in Business (different direction from his dad and late uncle, BTW) and liked their meeting at UNC's Business school. They also watched pick-up (Walker didn't participate due a sore ankle) and saw the team as well as several UNC legends and pros playing, including Danny Green and Tyler Hansbrough.

- Each school visited has of course laid out their plan to utilize Walker. UNC showed the Kesslers beaucoups film on Luke Maye, which very much appealed to them as Walker sees himself as a Stretch Big (he does have legit 3-pt range).
- UNC already has one 2020 Big (Dayron Sharpe) committed. But while that may seem like a deterrent it's not --- they love the fact hat Roy Williams is one of the few coaches left who prefers to play 2 Bigs together whenever he can. And with Sharpe (who is flat blowing up on the HS/AAU scene) playing more like a traditional 5, the Kesslers see a fit together since Walker can face up. In other words, he won't necessarily get stuck being cast as a one-dimensional 5-man. They also like the fact that at UNC, Bigs are gonna get touches --- in both half-court and transition --- while most programs these days are more Guard/Wing oriented (something they specifically commented on).

After the commitment...
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1) The basketball reasons he decided on UNC were all contained in my intel OP, in particular his fit in UNC's traditonal two-Big system (which Roy is determined to return to after not having the healthy personnel for it last season), along with seeing himself as their next Luke Maye. He also likes the idea of playing with Dayron Sharpe.

2) AUNC came on really hard after him over the past month and Roy Williams took the personal lead in his recruitment. Even kids who don't end up there will tell you there's not a more sincere, engaging HC out there than Ol' Roy and they talked regularly about everything, not just basketball.

3) He absolutely fell in love with the campus and Chapel Hill on his visit. It's a great place (as is Auburn --- dook, not so much), but it's also a basketball shrine. The Business school Dean also met with the family and laid out a plan to finish his degree (very important to them) should he decide to leave early for the draft at some point.

4) The family made the trip by car, and as I suspected, the decision was made on the way back to ATL. The UNC staff was genuinely surprised when they got they call from Walker. What I reported in the intel OP was exactly how the UNC staff felt on the Kesslers' departure from the OV. BTW, he also called Bruce, K and Juwan Howard (Michigan) --- Mark Few had apparently already been informed they weren't making the Gonzaga trip --- to let them know of his decision. Interstingly, this is pretty much exactly how Sharpe's surprise early commitment went down last year --- called and surprised Roy as soon as he got home from his OV.

So there it is. Auburn was very much in it until the UNC OV. There's nothing to be ashamed of or to blame anyone for. UNC has certainly lost out on more than it's share of 5*s, especially in recent years. It's big-time basketball recruiting that in this case was by all accounts clean on all ends (which is the exception as opposed to the rule these days). Let's get the next one.
This post was edited on 9/23/19 at 9:57 am
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/23/19 at 8:35 am to
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Yep he was sold on having a Luke Maye role.
So you do have Rivals access? lol
This post was edited on 9/23/19 at 8:43 am
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 9/23/19 at 8:39 am to
Nah. Once I saw the Evan Daniels CB I went searching for his articles on 247 and found this last night.
LINK /

What did Roy (Williams) specifically show in the film room with Walker?

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He showed some different players, but the biggest one he envisioned that Walker could emulate in some ways was Luke Maye. (They see him) doing things like Luke during the year where he came down on the break and shot threes, posted up sometimes, came off picks and hit jumpers, rolled to the basket, and posted up some. He (Maye) was real versatile for them. Their '4' and '5' is interchangeable, it's basically whoever gets down first goes to the block, the other trails, and there’s a lot of touches for their big players. Whereas other schools are far more focused on the smaller players and the wing players. To do those things, Walker has to demonstrate he can shoot it and they believe he’ll be able to well enough in college.
This post was edited on 9/23/19 at 8:41 am
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 9/23/19 at 10:01 am to
Shams Charania
@ShamsCharania
Sources: The Orlando Magic plan to redshirt No. 16 overall pick Chuma Okeke this season. Creative move by both sides allows Okeke to focus on ACL rehab while still being in team's long-term plans and receiving salary of 16th pick.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 9/23/19 at 10:07 am to
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Walker could emulate in some ways was Luke Maye


This is an attractive pitch considering they took a less talented walk on and turned him into a All ACC / All American in this role.


Win some, lose some. It's recruiting


Posted by AuSteeler
montgomery. AL
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 9/23/19 at 10:17 am to
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Only if we land Green as a rankings upgrade at the SG & land Cliff Omoruyi at C along with the projections of Sharife & Brakefield. Sounds like Hooks is just being bitter. Here's a different view with some Kessler intel from a HS coach who posts on the bunker who has AU & UNC ties FWIW.


Totally agree with this. After reading Hooks and I appreciate his posts and insight when he can and allowed to post it, it seemed he is disappointed, and to say the kid is stubborn and making the wrong choice is not giving the kid any credit. Picking a blue blood is never the wrong choice in my opinion.

And 1 point I really agreed with from your other comments post is the one where UNC really uses the 2 post system, whereas Pearl(at least in recent history) definitely tends to use his wings and guards more in his offense.

So Kessler picked the school best for his skillset and the offense UNC uses. Nothing wrong with that.
Posted by ThaiTiger24
Member since Jan 2016
4118 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 10:19 am to
We already lost Boston and now Kessler. Getting a bit concerned. Bruce is good but it has become apparent that we still can’t compete against the likes of he blue bloods quite yet.
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
26768 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 10:26 am to
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Getting a bit concerned.

Let’s just settle down
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
14285 posts
Posted on 9/23/19 at 10:38 am to
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We already lost Boston and now Kessler. Getting a bit concerned. Bruce is good but it has become apparent that we still can’t compete against the likes of he blue bloods quite yet.
Relax. We were a never a leader for Boston. We did good just to be in the conversation. A top 10 class is still very attainable & would still be recruiting progress as our best ever class was 12th.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 9/23/19 at 10:50 am to
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Bruce is good but it has become apparent that we still can’t compete against the likes of he blue bloods quite yet.


Our style of play puts high value on "tweeners" who rarely are elite recruits. Yes it sucks, but it isn't the dropoff it is for say Kentucky when they miss


Until blue bloods are straight copying our style completely, we will continue to win even without elite recruits
This post was edited on 9/23/19 at 10:54 am
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