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Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:35 pm to
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:35 pm to
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When Wiley was not going be out there.


Fun Stats of Wiley vs No Wiley for Harper,Brown, Okeke, Doughty, Dunbar and McCormick

** "P5 Type" includes MurraySt, Xav, Dayton

Team 2FG

w/Wiley: 49.0% (191/390)
w/o Wiley: 53.8% (120/223)

Team 3FG
w/Wiley:
38.4% (191/497)

w/o Wiley:
42.1% (102/242)


Team 2FG vs P5 Type Opp
w/Wiley:
48.3% (154/319)

w/o Wiley:
53.5% (106/198)

Team 3FG vs P5 Type Opp
w/Wiley:
38.6% (160/414)

w/o Wiley:
40.4% (84/208)




Individual Player Stats w/ Wiley


Harper: 33.3% 2FG, 38.8% 3FG

Brown: 47.9% 2FG, 38.1% 3FG

Okeke: 60.4% 2FG, 33.3% 3FG

Doughty: 46.3% 2FG, 44.9% 3FG

Dunbar: 57.8% 2FG, 36.8% 3FG

McCormick: 55.2% 2FG


Individual Player Stats w/o Wiley


Harper: 52.6% 2FG, 36.4% 3FG

Brown: 52% 2FG, 44.4% 3FG

Okeke: 56.7% 2FG, 45.9% 3FG

Doughty: 56.0% 2FG, 42.9% 3FG

Dunbar: 54.5% 2FG, 40% 3FG

McCormick: 48.1% 2FG




Player FGA per game w/ Wiley


Harper

2FGA: 4.7
3FGA: 6.7

Total: 11.35

Brown
2FGA: 3.7
3FGA: 8.4

Total: 12.1

Okeke
2FGA: 4.8
3FGA: 3.6

Total: 8.4

Doughty
2FGA: 2.7
3FGA: 2.5

Total: 5.2

Dunbar
2FGA: 2.3
3FGA: 3.4

Total: 5.7

McCormick
2FGA: 1.5
3FGA: 0.3

Total: 1.8

Player FGA per game w/o Wiley


Harper

2FGA: 5.7
3FGA: 6.6

Total: 12.3

Brown
2FGA: 2.5
3FGA: 8.1

Total: 10.6

Okeke
2FGA: 6.7
3FGA: 3.7

Total: 10.4

Doughty
2FGA: 2.5
3FGA: 2.8

Total: 5.3

Dunbar
2FGA: 2.4
3FGA: 2.8

Total: 5.2

McCormick
2FGA: 2.7
3FGA: 0.5

Total: 3.2
This post was edited on 3/13/19 at 12:37 pm
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:39 pm to
Well our admin handled that terribly. I was just thinking how nice it was that the story kinda blew over early in the week. Now it gets a second news cycle. Should have suspended him from the beginning if we were going to.
Posted by GenesChin
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:41 pm to
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Should have suspended him from the beginning if we were going to.


It is Wednesday, the story broke on like Monday night / Tuesday


We basically are at "the beginning"
Posted by Rig
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:56 pm to
Speaking of assistant coaches, we aren’t quite in the clear with Person yet are we?

I know he’s pending trial but what happens in the instance that he takes the stand and goes full scorched earth policy?

I’m assuming we’re still in a wait and see what happens position?
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 12:59 pm to
I know Chuck personally. He’s not going to go scorched earth. If anything came out to hurt us it would be vital, incidental information related to the case which is incredibly unlikely given the circumstances
Posted by PubeCrab
Member since May 2014
830 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 1:05 pm to
Well, we don’t have to be worried about playing Clemson again. NC State just played into tourney. Good to see the sec isn’t the only league with garbage, inconsistent refs.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 1:06 pm to
Geneschin, where do you get your stats.
Posted by GenesChin
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 1:10 pm to
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I know Chuck personally. He’s not going to go scorched earth.


I don't know of a reason why Chuck would have an axe to grind with Auburn. AU does not seem to be actively working against Chuck/his interests but our best to distance ourselves entirely and not be involved.


Posted by GenesChin
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 1:12 pm to
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Geneschin, where do you get your stats.


You mean the data source? Or how I put the 'reporting' together?

Almost any "stat" that I don't attribute elsewhere is something I generated on my own using the raw data


Data Source: KenPom or College Reference
ReportCreation: SQL
This post was edited on 3/13/19 at 1:16 pm
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 1:28 pm to
quote:

I was just thinking how nice it was that the story kinda blew over early in the week. Now it gets a second news cycle. Should have suspended him from the beginning if we were going to.




it just came out a day or two ago, didn't it? I am sure they took a couple of days to investigate it.

This affects Auburn in no way. This was done at another school. I don't think it's even an NCAA crime. Who would ever think something like this was going on?
Posted by Rig
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 1:29 pm to
Chuck will ultimately follow what his attorney believes best in order to avoid prison time. I wouldn’t necessarily rule out that he wouldn’t indict AU
Posted by GenesChin
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

. I wouldn’t necessarily rule out that he wouldn’t indict AU


I'm saying that I don't see Chuck burning AU out of spite over how AU handled him / this situation



Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
7910 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 1:42 pm to
Yes but there is nothing in this circumstance that can hurt AU in court related to this case. As has been discussed as nauseum.. if Bruce knew about this and didn’t stop it then he was actively working against the competitiveness of his own roster. If Bruce was doing that (he wasn’t) then I no longer care about what the NCAA does/doesn’t find, I want him the hell out of AU.
Posted by MrAUTigers
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 1:45 pm to
The FEDS have already investigated it. They said Auburn was the victim.
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 2:00 pm to
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The FEDS have already investigated it. They said Auburn was the victim.


The FEDs are talking about Auburn University, the academic institution, not the basketball program.


As in, Auburn University is a victim of the basketball program's NCAA violations
This post was edited on 3/13/19 at 2:01 pm
Posted by MrAUTigers
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

The FEDs are talking about Auburn University, the academic institution, not the basketball program.


As in, Auburn University is a victim of the basketball program's NCAA violations




wrong. They found Person was trying to steer our best players to leave. That is why Auburn was the victim.

ETA Just look at our roster. It is a bunch of lightly recruited guys and one 5* star who's Mom has her jersey hanging in the rafters.
This post was edited on 3/13/19 at 2:12 pm
Posted by GenesChin
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 3:46 pm to
quote:


wrong. They found Person was trying to steer our best players to leave. That is why Auburn was the victim.


You do realize the Feds/prosecution said that Louisville, a school that paid recruits, was a victim too right?


quote:

It is a bunch of lightly recruited guys


Chuck wasn't accused of paying recruits, it is why he is on a separate indictment from the other shoe scandal coaches/people.





This post was edited on 3/13/19 at 3:48 pm
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 3:52 pm to
quote:

Chuck wasn't accused of paying recruits,


That's my point. So why are people worried? The FEDS and NCAA have already said that Auburn did nothing wrong. It was a rogue coach of ours who was trying to profit off of players at Auburn.
Posted by GenesChin
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Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 3/13/19 at 3:57 pm to
quote:

So why are people worried?


That Chuck may know and/or share previously hidden skeletons, if they exist, to reduce his prison time.

quote:

The FEDS said that Auburn did nothing wrong


This means that Auburn did nothing legally wrong. That does not clear Auburn of potential NCAA violations

You may not know this, but the FBI is a law enforcement agency that deals with legal investigations not NCAA rule enforcement.

quote:

NCAA have already said that Auburn did nothing wrong.


The NCAA has ruled exclusively on the known details regarding the known details re Person case with Wiley/Purifoy


The NCAA has not given an all encompassing clearance to Auburn basketball

This post was edited on 3/13/19 at 4:01 pm
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 3/13/19 at 4:05 pm to
quote:

This means that Auburn did nothing legally wrong. That does not clear Auburn of potential NCAA violations

You may not know this, but the FBI is a law enforcement agency that deals with legal investigations not NCAA rule enforcement.



The NCAA investigated it. This was more than a year ago. Are they Cam Newtoning it?

Would our compliance not step in if there was a possible issue?

I think people are worried about things that have already been checked out. Many, many, many, rumors have come out about schools/players and illegal benefits. Auburn has not been mentioned one time.
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