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Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:01 pm to
Posted by beatbammer
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:01 pm to
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Where does Harper rank against the other great Auburn PGs?


Fast Eddie Johnson averaged 19.5 pts, 4.9 assts, 2.4 steals per game for a 4 year career.

Gerald White averaged 7.2, 5.1, and 1.2.

Wes Flanigan averaged 10.1, 4.8, and 1.3.

Doc Robinson averaged 10.4, 4.4, and 1.2.

After Doc, there was a vast void of "meh" until Harper. Harper averages 12.2, 4.3, and 1.2.

So Fast Eddie, historically, is Auburn's best PG. After that? Doc, not just statistically solid but maybe the best leader on the hardwood in an AU uniform I've ever seen.

Right now Harper is #3 IMO. If he continues to improve and this team continues to win and make tourneys, he could end up passing Doc. And if they impress enough in tourney ball, that could carry him over Johnson even with Johnson's significantly more impressive statistics.
Posted by beatbammer
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:06 pm to
BTW, tonight on the SECN at 9:30 is the Auburn basketball edition of SEC Inside.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:23 pm to
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Beatbammer
Thanks
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
52489 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:32 pm to
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Just imagine if Kareem Canty had played on this team

He’d incredibly slow down the offense while pretending that he plays for the Harlem Globetrotters. His handles were great but never did he cross the defenders over much less blow by them.
Posted by SECTiger92
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 2:58 pm to
From Jay Tate who's at practice:

Bryce Brown Notes:
He's shooting in the gym. No brace. Says he's "almost ready." Was doing some light weightlifting before that. Practicing today but no contact.
Video of Bryce dribbling and shooting: LINK

Random note form the thread, Mustafa hit 18 3's in a row. Good to see he's getting out of his slump, shooting 45% from 3 the last 5 games.

EDIT:To say 45% instead of 475% lol

This post was edited on 2/12/18 at 3:40 pm
Posted by Rig
BHM
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 3:03 pm to
I wasn't implying it as a good thing but just as a funny side note of how far we've come. If you needed a circus 3 from quarter court, he was money though
Posted by AUNashville
New Haven
Member since Jul 2014
3561 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 3:08 pm to
He'd make 1 out of like 5 three pointer attempts and then start pointing to his watch.
Posted by PearlJam
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 3:13 pm to
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shooting 475% from 3 the last 5 games.
Strong AF
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 3:21 pm to
Bruce Pearl hopes the fans to be classy toward Barbee if he makes the trip.

Justin Ferguson
Justin Ferguson
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Auburn HC Bruce Pearl ended his press conference today saying that he hopes the fan base and the student section is nothing but “classy” if Tony Barbee comes to town with Kentucky on Wednesday.

“He was our basketball coach for four years. He moved his family here.”
Posted by AUNashville
New Haven
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 3:25 pm to
I respect this.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37840 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 3:25 pm to
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Bruce Pearl hopes the fans to be classy toward Barbee if he makes the trip.


I hope we make a Tony Barbee fat head
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 2/12/18 at 3:30 pm to
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I hope we make a Tony Barbee fat head

We have to give him one good booing if not for the fact that he managed to avoid the trip one or two years ago. Tony Barbee was the real pit of misery. Time to roast his arse.
This post was edited on 2/12/18 at 3:36 pm
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 4:39 pm to
The fact that we ever hired Barbee is a testament to the incompetence of Jay Jacobs. UTEP was very open to Auburn people about Barbee and all his red flags, but Jacobs just saw the 20+ win seasons and NCAAT berth and connection to Calipari and hired him anyway.
I remember initially being excited about the Barbee hire for those same reasons, but right away there were articles about the warnings from UTEP people, and everything they said about him foreshadowed all of his issues at Auburn. They talked about how outside of practice and games the only time he would interact or talk to his players was having them go through his assistants. They talked about how he acted like he was better than everybody else, his personality drove away players and assistants, which is exactly what he did to players at Auburn. He actually signed some decent classes and some good players, but without fail he drove away every player worth a shite. The better the player, the faster they were gone. 4* and signed to Auburn under Barber? If you even made it to campus, then you would show a good promising freshmen season and then without fail be gone the next off-season. Shaq Johnson, Josh Price, Cedrick McAfee, Luke Cothran, Josh Langford, Willy Kouassi... Everybody he recruited out of HS that was highly ranked or showed promise on the court, not one of them lasted more than 2 years at AU... Probably foreshadowing that the first thing Barbee did after his first year was over was run off our best player, Earnest Ross.

But every single player that was worth a shite in the Barbee era and actually made it to their senior year here fall into 3 categories.
Leftovers from Lebo: (Kenny Gabriel, Frankie Sullivan)
Transfers: (Noel Johnson, KT Harrell)
Unranked recruit with no hype: (Chris Denson)

If even a few of those good players that Barbee recruited from HS actually lasted at Auburn then maybe Barbee would have actually broken .500 here at least once and madr himself look half decent.

The one and only highlight of the Barbee era is rhe opening of Auburn Arena. But even that he inherited from Lebo and wasn't his own accomplishment.







Sorry for the rant, but I hate Barbee with a passion. He made Auburn basketball during my college years a beyond awful experience and I'll never forgive him or Jacobs for that.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
52489 posts
Posted on 2/12/18 at 8:57 pm to
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BTW, tonight on the SECN at 9:30 is the Auburn basketball edition of SEC Inside.

Has been awesome so far.
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
Member since Nov 2010
10070 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 8:42 am to
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Bryce Brown Notes:
He's shooting in the gym. No brace. Says he's "almost ready." Was doing some light weightlifting before that. Practicing today but no contact.
Video of Bryce dribbling and shooting: LINK


good to hear, the video of him shooting FT's at UGA looked rough.
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37840 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 9:18 am to
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Good to see he's getting out of his slump,


It wasn't a slump, it was being gun shy and I guess you can say poor shot selection as a result. Mustapha was missing shots because he was taking garbage shots and passing up on better looks

Right now, he is immediately catching & shooting off a flex screen or kick out to the wing. Earlier this season, he'd "wait" to face up the opponent and then decide to drive, "shake n shoot long 2" or contested 3FG


I trashed Mustapha a lot last year and the beginning of last year. Partially because I thought his athleticism wasn't elite (seems I was wrong), but mostly because how he played. He has always tried to play hero ball, his effort was inconsistent w/o the ball and on defense and he was lazy running offensive sets.


In SEC play, Mustapha has shown signs of developing into that elite player we need/want him to be. When he plays the offense and takes the efficient shots, Mustapha is playing at an elevated level. Heron also is showing significant improvement on the defensive end + rebounding.


My only critique now is that he needs to get better at playing off screens. If you watch him on flex screens he frequently is going through the motions and not aggressively taking screens and/or cutting that would free him up more (a la Bryce Brown's awesome backdoor cuts)
This post was edited on 2/13/18 at 9:26 am
Posted by auburnnyc94
Member since Nov 2017
10116 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 9:34 am to
It seems like early last year and to some degree of success we would get Mustapha the ball on the block against smaller guards when we really needed a bucket. Maybe I'm misremembering the success rate but I wonder why we got away from that? Now, quite frankly, idgaf because we are playing elite offense anyways..
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 2/13/18 at 10:19 am to
The @SEC’s five teams in the Top 25 of the Feb. 12 NCAA RPI rank are tied for most in the nation: No. 7 Auburn, No. 13 Tennessee, No. 17 Texas A&M, No. 20 Kentucky, No. 23 Missouri
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38802 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 11:53 am to
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My only critique now is that he needs to get better at playing off screens. If you watch him on flex screens he frequently is going through the motions and not aggressively taking screens and/or cutting that would free him up more (a la Bryce Brown's awesome backdoor cuts)


I wonder if he was the guy Bruce was yelling at in practice about that last night on the SEC Inside show about Auburn?
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37840 posts
Posted on 2/13/18 at 12:42 pm to
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I wonder if he was the guy Bruce was yelling at in practice about that last night on the SEC Inside show about Auburn?


I remember hearing that Brown/Mustapha were getting on each other pretty hard after the Barry exhibition loss. I was a little worried about the chemistry then, but Heron/Brown appear to work extremely well together on the court right now
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