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re: Remember when a lot of people on this board didn’t want Lane Kiffin as HC?

Posted on 11/26/21 at 1:19 pm to
Posted by Gimme back that fish
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Posted on 11/26/21 at 1:19 pm to
Cool bump
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Posted on 11/26/21 at 1:19 pm to
So let’s say his moving is overstated, one of y’all’s biggest complaint is current recruiting.

Kiffin is recruiting worse than Harsin. Why should we make a change after year one to a HC with worse recruiting results?
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 11/26/21 at 1:31 pm to
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So let’s say his moving is overstated, one of y’all’s biggest complaint is current recruiting.

Kiffin is recruiting worse than Harsin. Why should we make a change after year one to a HC with worse recruiting results?


The consistency in logic is non-existent.

"Recruiting is all that matters. If you can't recruit you can't win". Kiffin isn't even recruiting in his second year despite Top 10 hype, the hype of a QB that may be a Top 10 pick, etc. His recruiting is baffling; at least there are built in explanations for Harsin's struggle there (not from this region, trying to play catch-up, etc). Kiffin is in his 2nd season, came to Ole Miss after coaching a school in Florida, and before that was making waves as the OC at Alabama. Some time before that he was the HC at Tennessee. His name is known and he should have no problems with visibility or "connections" in this region.

What's even more baffling is that they have three 4-star commitments - and all of them are defensive players. Where the hell are all the offensive recruits who should be excited to play in his high powered offense? It looks like a complete fail on all fronts.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 11/26/21 at 1:32 pm to
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Why should we make a change after year one
I’m not saying that.

The thread speaks for itself. I’m a huge Lane Kiffin fan and believe he’s a better coach than what we currently have, and Auburn could’ve had him.

I’m not saying we fire Bryan Harsin after year 1 and then hire Lane Kiffin.

Now, if Bryan Harsin decided to leave for Washington like smoke suggests, then I would be all for luring Kiffin or Freeze away Ole Miss and Liberty respectively.
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 11/26/21 at 1:34 pm to
Ole Miss, in general, recruits very inconsistently. Take a look at their classes from 2008-present. They range from top 5 to in the 40’s.

Also, like with our class, this recruiting cycle isn’t over.
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 11/26/21 at 2:27 pm to
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How does Ole Miss keep hiring better coaches than Auburn? Freeze and Kiffin are lethal.
because Auburn is pretentious and arrogant. We are ABOVE hiring such low character coaches. So we will hire the "best fit" and enjoy our 8 win seasons in perpetuity and feel good about our false sense of moralistic integrity
Posted by TTsTowel
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Posted on 11/26/21 at 2:55 pm to
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because Auburn is pretentious and arrogant. We are ABOVE hiring such low character coaches. So we will hire the "best fit" and enjoy our 8 win seasons in perpetuity and feel good about our false sense of moralistic integrity
I don’t disagree.

Nick Saban
Jimbo Fisher
Lane Kiffin
Mike Leach
Lincoln Riley (maybe)

Whew… SEC West coaches are looking pretty stacked.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 11/26/21 at 4:55 pm to
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Cristobal and tucker sure have looked great this past week


They both have 9 wins and are both great recruiters with experience in the south.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
3601 posts
Posted on 11/26/21 at 5:17 pm to
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They both have 9 wins and are both great recruiters with experience in the south.



Mel Tucker has absolutely not proven to be a "great recruiter". MSU's recruiting class last season in his first year contained a whopping one 4-star recruit. This year, their recruiting is "up"...but he's basically fighting off Rutgers and Indiana in the Big Ten rankings (both of which have a higher per-commit average than Michigan State by the way), and thats in a season where they won a lot of games and were ranked in the Top 4 at one point. Indiana with a record of 2-9 is recruiting at the same pace as MSU.

Michigan State has as many 4-stars committed as we do (5)...except with 7 more total commitments. Is that supposed to be impressive? The guy literally made $90 million or whatever his new contract is off the basis of one load-up of transfer portal players, most of which will be gone this year.
This post was edited on 11/26/21 at 5:19 pm
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17396 posts
Posted on 11/26/21 at 5:36 pm to
I have a feeling that Sparty will regret this deal with Tucker even more than we regret the 2017 Gustav extension.

Unlike with Gustav, they will be stuck with Mel for the next decade. I can't see their boosters ponying up $60-70 million (!!) in three or four years after he fails to even get them in the B1G CG.
Posted by Nerd
Member since Dec 2019
878 posts
Posted on 11/26/21 at 9:35 pm to
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First 10 win regular season in Ole Miss’ history. In year 2.


Congrats to coach Clown. He’ll flip it and take over a bigger program and be fired within four years.
Posted by blzr
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 11/26/21 at 10:55 pm to
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They both have 9 wins and are both great recruiters with experience in the south.



Yikes imagine thinking that tucker and cristobal are good coaches
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
Member since Jan 2004
10658 posts
Posted on 11/27/21 at 12:26 am to
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Now looks at us


You sound like one of those Bama fans that wanted to run Saban off after his first year.


Our coach sucks. Fire him.

Our new coach sucks. Fire him.


It's actually sad. Expected, but sad.
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