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re: Portal Extravaganza - the Freeze 4 horsemen of the apocalypse edition
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:17 pm to wareaglepete
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:17 pm to wareaglepete
I can agree with that or at least they should be able to negotiate that clause.
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Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:17 pm to metafour
Easy to get around all of that with back channeling with uncs and cousins running your recruitment.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:18 pm to wareaglepete
Right Meta, but there is zero way to prove that unless the player says he was tampered with and that's not going to happen.
People can assume the reason he would announce his intent is because we contacted him, but without proof its just assumption. He could just as easily really want to play for his old coach and just announce it.
People can assume the reason he would announce his intent is because we contacted him, but without proof its just assumption. He could just as easily really want to play for his old coach and just announce it.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:19 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
All pro sports you have to commit 3-5 years after being drafted/signed. What college is doing is just unreal. You can't wrap your heads around it.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:19 pm to i am dan
But but but that was Hugh freezes fault and if we keep Durkin and retain talent…. Keep moving the goal posts. We did great when we had less talent too if you remember. We can blame the players but when you play in a horrible system you tend to look bad.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:21 pm to Beachbum87
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Easy to get around all of that with back channeling with uncs and cousins running your recruitment.
That’s not the issue being discussed. It’s happening as we’ll speak. The issue is JT33 wants them to publicly announce their commitment to the school they have secretly made a verbal deal with. That isn’t going to happen unless a player wants to frick up the deal and fric over the school he made the deal with.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:26 pm to wareaglepete
It really is quite insane. The process of roster management is pretty overwhelming.
I forget what school I heard about this morning, but all but 16 players of the program have announced they will enter the portal. The school doesn’t even have one player listed in the online roster. The guy said he has never ever seen that before.
I forget what school I heard about this morning, but all but 16 players of the program have announced they will enter the portal. The school doesn’t even have one player listed in the online roster. The guy said he has never ever seen that before.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:27 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
I'm still not clear on the verbal rule tbh.
And tampering might be a rule, but they can't enforce it, so is it really a rule? I don't think a single school or coach has gotten in trouble for it yet.. some schools and coaches have directly been called out about it and still nothing came from it. There are no rules left in college sports anymore imo.
And tampering might be a rule, but they can't enforce it, so is it really a rule? I don't think a single school or coach has gotten in trouble for it yet.. some schools and coaches have directly been called out about it and still nothing came from it. There are no rules left in college sports anymore imo.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:28 pm to jt33
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Right Meta, but there is zero way to prove that unless the player says he was tampered with and that's not going to happen.
Dude, are you trolling?
If Cam Coleman comes out on Twitter today and says: "I AM ANOUNCING MY COMMITMENT TO THE TEXAS LONGHORNS" then he is publicly announcing that he has had formal recruiting contact with Texas. This is NOT ALLOWED because he is not in the Portal yet, which means that he is not allowed to engage in recruiting contact with other schools.
Yes, he CAN hypothetically have an under-the-table commitment in place with Texas that is being kept quiet to avoid tampering penalties for Texas. However, your initial statement which sparked this discussion was that if Byrum Brown was guaranteed to be coming here, he would have just announced it by now. But the whole freaking point is that he cant announce anything publicly until January 2nd (or whenever the NCAA clears his request).
What is confusing about this?
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:28 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
quote:Iowa State.
I forget what school I heard about this morning, but all but 16 players of the program have announced they will enter the portal. The school doesn’t even have one player listed in the online roster. The guy said he has never ever seen that before.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:29 pm to jt33
I believe you’re correct. Thank you.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:31 pm to jt33
Maybe you could get away with it but why announce now and open yourself up to scrutiny when you can wait three days? What’s the advantage to announcing now vs in 3 days? To appease bed wetters on an Internet forum?
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:33 pm to metafour
quote:This is the part where we differ. There is no proof of contact. I could announce I'm committing to Auburn, but its just words.. wouldn't mean I was in contact with the staff.
which means that he is not allowed to engage in recruiting contact with other schools
Just because someone makes a verbal announcement doesn't guarantee there has been contact. and I see no rules stating when and when you cannot make a verbal announcement.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:33 pm to jt33
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And tampering might be a rule, but they can't enforce it, so is it really a rule? I don't think a single school or coach has gotten in trouble for it yet.. some schools and coaches have directly been called out about it and still nothing came from it. There are no rules left in college sports anymore imo.
There has been nobody punished because the NCAA obviously can't wire-tap schools or players and read or listen to their PRIVATE conversations.
What you are describing is PUBLIC announcements. If a player PUBLICLY makes an announcement that they have BROKEN THE RULES, then the NCAA will obviously intervene because the proof is out in the PUBLIC space for all to see.
This has not happened yet because players and school are not freaking stupid, hence why NOBODY HAS ANNOUNCED A COMMITMENT YET EXCEPT PLAYERS AREADY IN THE PORTAL.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:33 pm to jt33
Yes they really can enforce it. I think it can be fleshed out and proven. Tampering and inducement is a rule because a school cannot make an official offer or even a contact until the portal is officially open and the player is officially recognized to be in the portal database. Bottom line, no player is going to cross the line and announce publicly.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:36 pm to tgrmeat
quote:Scrutiny from who? The NCAA doesn't do anything anymore and even if they do, zero proof.
Maybe you could get away with it but why announce now and open yourself up to scrutiny when you can wait three days? What’s the advantage to announcing now vs in 3 days? To appease bed wetters on an Internet forum?
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:38 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Yes they really can enforce it. I think it can be fleshed out and proven. Tampering and inducement is a rule because a school cannot make an official offer or even a contact until the portal is officially open and the player is officially recognized to be in the portal database. Bottom line, no player is going to cross the line and announce publicly.
The proof is literally in the fact that there is not one of HUNDREDS of players who have formally announced a commitment. If they could do what they pleased, then you would see commitments announced by now. Duh.
Forget Byrum Brown. We will obviously have "lower tier" players from USF who will be coming here with Golesh. Why haven't any of those players announced their commitments yet? They aren't all entertaining better offers from better schools.
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:38 pm to jt33
Let’s get back to your original request. After everything provided, what player is going to announce publicly before the portal is open what school they are committing to? Is your expectation for them to do this reasonable?
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:38 pm to metafour
quote:Ok but a verbal is not breaking the rules. No one can prove tampering, so what does it matter?
What you are describing is PUBLIC announcements. If a player PUBLICLY makes an announcement that they have BROKEN THE RULES, then the NCAA will obviously intervene because the proof is out in the PUBLIC space for all to see
Posted on 12/30/25 at 2:39 pm to RockyMtnTigerWDE
Agreed. I am sure a lot have deals already in place. I am also sure a bunch will be shocked when they see their market value may not reflect what they thought.
There are probably 5 schools that can afford anyone, but their roster's are not infinite.
The transfers suck for us, but this is the price we pay for hiring Freeze to begin with. I don't think we can look for any quick fixes but I hope we are in the top 15 in portal class -- but even if we are not, getting the right peices for us matters more than ever. That starts with a decent OL and a qb/wr who know this system. Golesh does not have the luxury of training wheels.
There are probably 5 schools that can afford anyone, but their roster's are not infinite.
The transfers suck for us, but this is the price we pay for hiring Freeze to begin with. I don't think we can look for any quick fixes but I hope we are in the top 15 in portal class -- but even if we are not, getting the right peices for us matters more than ever. That starts with a decent OL and a qb/wr who know this system. Golesh does not have the luxury of training wheels.
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