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On PTB’s Investigation of Harsin
Posted on 7/5/22 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 7/5/22 at 3:18 pm
A quote from Bryan Matthews
I’m under the impression the PTB had to investigate him and unlike the old days, I don’t think it was possible to keep this quiet (especially if a significant party has an agenda) so where exactly did the administration screw up. . Let’s hash this out one more time.
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This is a results-oriented and no excuses business, but there are reasons AU missed on Faulk that must be addressed. FSU and Clemson hammered Faulk on Auburn’s internal investigation of Harsin and his future at AU, which certainly had an effect on his recruitment. It’s another example of Auburn doing more damage to itself than any other school could do. And it happened because of poor leadership within the University and athletic department. You DO NOT go through a public investigation of the HEAD FOOTBALL COACH unless you already know the outcome. Five months later it remains one of the most idiotic moves AU has made in my 20+ years covering this school. And yes, Harsin deserves some of the blame here to for putting AU in that situation
I’m under the impression the PTB had to investigate him and unlike the old days, I don’t think it was possible to keep this quiet (especially if a significant party has an agenda) so where exactly did the administration screw up. . Let’s hash this out one more time.
Another good quote just for stopping by:
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For recruiting, if you're going to hire a coach from Boise State with no experience recruiting in the SEC, you don't just throw them in the fire and have them figure things out on their own. It was clear from the start, that Harsin and his staff weren't prepared for recruiting at this level. If Auburn had better leadership, they would have made sure he was aware of his recruiting duties during his interview. They certainly wouldn't have let it got to where it was in January when they hosted a Junior Day that was barely attended.
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 3:36 pm
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Posted on 7/5/22 at 3:45 pm to jangalang
We are last in the SEC in recruiting right now.
lol
lol
Posted on 7/5/22 at 3:46 pm to jangalang
But Harsin and Green swam together in a pool on vacation. You’re Hired!
Posted on 7/5/22 at 3:48 pm to CorchJay
My bad maybe that was Mason. Hell this shite show has to many turns.
And I like BMatt but to say this is the worst the university has done since he’s been covering AU for 20 years. Guess jetgate slipped his mind. Even Tubs wasn’t a incredible recruiter but he got it done
And I like BMatt but to say this is the worst the university has done since he’s been covering AU for 20 years. Guess jetgate slipped his mind. Even Tubs wasn’t a incredible recruiter but he got it done
Posted on 7/5/22 at 3:50 pm to TTsTowel
We were last in recruiting this time last year. Can’t remember where we finished like 7th or 8th in the conference. That doesn’t get it done for sure in this conference
If you aren’t consistently top 4ish you have no shot
If you aren’t consistently top 4ish you have no shot
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 7/5/22 at 3:52 pm to TTsTowel
Ouch.
The irony of the PTB getting involved because of Harsin’s shite recruiting and only making recruiting even worst isn’t lost on me. They made things worse and gave Harsin more scapegoats to blame.
The irony of the PTB getting involved because of Harsin’s shite recruiting and only making recruiting even worst isn’t lost on me. They made things worse and gave Harsin more scapegoats to blame.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 3:57 pm to jangalang
The first 5 games of this season will decide Harsin’s future. 5-0 we probably get some if the wait and see recruits. 4-1 we aren’t eliminated from most but gotta show something more against the mediocre teams in the conference. 3-2 or hell 2-3 we are fricked. The way we played Ga St and USCe I ain’t counting a win against Mizz.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 4:15 pm to jangalang
The investigation would not have taken place if 1) Auburn had won 8 or more games, 2) had a top 10 recruiting class, or 3) won the Iron Bowl.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 4:18 pm to CorchJay
Since when does a coach need to be told how important recruiting is ?
Posted on 7/5/22 at 4:18 pm to LRB1967
Possibly but depending on the allegations which no one has said what those allegations were. We just got the click bait smut articles.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 4:19 pm to LRB1967
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The investigation would not have taken place if 1) Auburn had won 8 or more games, 2) had a top 10 recruiting class, or 3) won the Iron Bowl.
That’s right. But it did take place. If you’re a boss do you meticulously govern the every day affairs of your subordinates that actually make your life better. Or do you go after the ones constantly screwing up on your shift. Harsin is screwing up - and PTB are watching him more closely.
And this is where Ttown PTB gets too much credit for “getting out of the way.” It’s too easy to get out of the way of someone that was already a National Champion. Just like it’s easy now to tell Bruce to go do his thing.
This post was edited on 7/5/22 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 7/5/22 at 4:23 pm to auburn22
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Since when does a coach need to be told how important recruiting is ?
Exactly and what I have been saying since last April. I moaned and bitched a little but this year frick that crap. I’m really not sure how anyone that doesn’t have a personal investment in Harsin how they can defend what’s gone one since day 1. Harsin as I’ve said before and gave him props earlier in the season for getting in gear on recruiting some but obviously still not enough. Some of us has known the final outcome of the Harsin era for almost a year now.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 4:33 pm to CorchJay
Just wait we missed on Faulk. It will turn to Russaw really likes Roc and is interested in the depth chart at AU. Just wait give it 2 weeks so everyone moves on to the next shiny object of the recruiting services.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 4:38 pm to CorchJay
I don’t follow recruiting much but I’m missing the significance of missing Faulk myself.
Brock Glenn seemed like a significant recruit that could sway a recruiting class though.
Maybe it’s just the fact that we knew we had a talent rich state this year and have mostly not taken advantage of it and frustration is culminating.
Brock Glenn seemed like a significant recruit that could sway a recruiting class though.
Maybe it’s just the fact that we knew we had a talent rich state this year and have mostly not taken advantage of it and frustration is culminating.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 4:54 pm to jangalang
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I don’t follow recruiting much but I’m missing the significance of missing Faulk myself.
- He was our best shot at a ~Top 100 recruit in this class.
- He was our best shot at a ~Top 10 recruit from the state of Alabama.
- He plays a position (Edge) where we have little to no long-term prospects, so the need is significant. We didn't land a single Edge player in the last class (depending on how you want to project Powell Gordon).
- Everything was supposedly "lined up right" for this recruitment (small-town kid who wants to stay closer to home, supposedly grew up an Auburn fan, etc, etc).
Brock Glenn is a borderline 4-star who really doesn't move the needle. He's important for the perception of landing a QB in the class, but he's not good enough to elevate your recruiting anyway. Faulk is a significantly bigger catch.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 4:54 pm to jangalang
Harsin shoulders most, if not all, of the blame for where this program is right now. Lee Hunter and Kobe Hudson just dragged him publicly for being a terrible leader and not connecting with the players. Is there another instance of this happening at another school in recent memory? I can’t think of one. Even Smoke made some shitty remark and tried to walk it back later. It has to be pretty poor for players to just trash a coach like that publicly.
The turnover in staff is a huge red flag. The timing of Mason leaving and for less money was pretty telling imo.
I don’t think we know anything other than a formal complaint was submitted against Harsin. The University has to formally investigate it. Not sure how it leaked, but imagine it’s tough to keep that under wraps these days. Social media did what it does and nonsense spread like wildfire. PTB got involved, but they surely didn’t create that mess.
Culture is real and it matters, no matter what sport or industry you are in. Harsin has cultivated this and I’m really not expecting him to survive. I really wish we had just bought him out, I fear what our roster is going to look like and how far the program gets set back.
The turnover in staff is a huge red flag. The timing of Mason leaving and for less money was pretty telling imo.
I don’t think we know anything other than a formal complaint was submitted against Harsin. The University has to formally investigate it. Not sure how it leaked, but imagine it’s tough to keep that under wraps these days. Social media did what it does and nonsense spread like wildfire. PTB got involved, but they surely didn’t create that mess.
Culture is real and it matters, no matter what sport or industry you are in. Harsin has cultivated this and I’m really not expecting him to survive. I really wish we had just bought him out, I fear what our roster is going to look like and how far the program gets set back.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 5:12 pm to metafour
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He was our best shot at a ~Top 100 recruit in this class.
- He was our best shot at a ~Top 10 recruit from the state of Alabama.
Didn’t even get one of those great Alabama recruits?
Maybe where Auburn fans could be confused is Harsin was supposed to do well finding three stars to compete with 4 and 5 stars but it seems Harsin is primarily recruiting the same players our opponents are recruiting thus the lack of volume at this point.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 5:21 pm to jangalang
jang and metofore should make love. Harsin is going to kill it.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 5:35 pm to alpinetiger
Alpine
Wake Up from your wet dream and keep me out of them.
Posted on 7/5/22 at 5:49 pm to alpinetiger
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Harsin is going to kill it
He already is. He’s killing our program that’s why we are all losing our minds. Luckily you are holding all your marbles together.
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