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Posted on 10/17/23 at 2:31 pm to LanierSpots
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Your problem with all this is that you can not have a discussion or debate without turning it into a shite show.
No! The shite show is refusing to accept what NIL has done to recruiting while keeping your recruiting expectations up to norm.
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It is not my responsibility to do their job for them.
Nobody gives a frick about your bait money dude. You're a retard.
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Why not get those funds from the people who directly benefit or have benifitted from the athletic program. Auburn has alumni and sponsors and partners that help them raise money. Blatantly asking fans for money to buy high school players is absolutely absurd.
I benefited from the athletic program once or twice. You? Your whole argument is someone else should donate. That's hilarious.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 2:31 pm to smuphy72
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Well, if y’all want good news we dropped Lewis and Collins to free up future NIL money for some playas
Come on….Quarterback! No whammies
Posted on 10/17/23 at 2:34 pm to LanierSpots
Every team in the country not just Auburn is begging for cash. If I'm not mistaken they're preventing people like the yellowfeller and Tim cooks from helping out, because of their connection to the university. How are we suppose to manage without the best players? Good coaching can only go so far. We don't have the firepower right now
Posted on 10/17/23 at 2:36 pm to jangalang
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No! The shite show is refusing to accept what NIL has done to recruiting while keeping your recruiting expectations up to norm.
Im not saying Auburn should not play the NIL game. I am saying they should not be asking fans to pay for it. They need to raise it.
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Nobody gives a frick about your bait money dude. You're a retard.
More fine debate from you bro
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I benefited from the athletic program once or twice. You? Your whole argument is someone else should donate. That's hilarious.
I have never "benefited" from college football other than having a good time watching it. Either at home or at games. Just like the NFL,NBA, WWF, AMA Motocross, Tennis or Pro Bass Fishing. And I have never sent any of them a dime either.
You are trying to turn this on my so bad, you dont even see my point in all of it.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 2:40 pm to LanierSpots
Legitimate question, how is raising money different from asking through NIL subscriptions?
Posted on 10/17/23 at 2:41 pm to Johnnycrane
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Every team in the country not just Auburn is begging for cash. If I'm not mistaken they're preventing people like the yellowfeller and Tim cooks from helping out, because of their connection to the university.
I have no idea if that is true or what the implications are. Auburn has more ways to come up with the needed money for athletics than those few revenue streams.
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How are we suppose to manage without the best players?
IF NIL is the way to go, Auburn needs to find that needed funds. Not by asking the fans. It is just something that I don't believe in.
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Good coaching can only go so far. We don't have the firepower right now
Auburn just wasted 19 million and then 15 million on two coaches in a 3 year span that was handled worse than if some of our board members would have handled it. Roughly 35 million dollars wasted. And let's not talk about the wasted money in the past.
There are ways for them to make the money, they are just dipping into your pockets for more because some people are willing to part with it .
Posted on 10/17/23 at 2:41 pm to Weagle25
Long before NIL Clemson had a well-funded, long standing grassroots program called "I Give Two Dollars A Day" or something
Being grassroots and all it was fandom in its purist form by those that could do it. I suppose they are still doing it. I am not encouraging people to go blow their money or to spend money one way or another but NIL absolutely matters for recruiting and a grassroots movements isnt unheard of.
Being grassroots and all it was fandom in its purist form by those that could do it. I suppose they are still doing it. I am not encouraging people to go blow their money or to spend money one way or another but NIL absolutely matters for recruiting and a grassroots movements isnt unheard of.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 2:47 pm to jangalang
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Long before NIL Clemson had a well-funded, long standing grassroots program called "I Give Two Dollars A Day" or something
$700 a year would buy some nice fishing equipment baw. Just saying
And Auburn would need 50,000 fans to give that just to pay for the last two coaching frick ups.
50,000 fans to pay 2 people buy outs
This post was edited on 10/17/23 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 10/17/23 at 3:00 pm to LanierSpots
I researched it. Its "I Pay Ten A Year"
I dont think that number is inflation adjusted though...
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I dont think that number is inflation adjusted though...
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Posted on 10/17/23 at 3:06 pm to LanierSpots
I see both sides here. Personally there's no way I'm paying money to dole out to high school players who may or may not be good, may or may not finish their career at auburn, and will almost definitely spend it on booze and weed. I love auburn but if that's what it takes to be competitive in today's world then count me out. It's not worth it to me on principle. I also agree with Lanier in that there's no way I'm trusting auburn or any university to be responsible stewards of my money.
That said it's all about money now and if people aren't paying it we won't compete at the highest levels. Hopefully other people will pay and i can maintain am interest in auburn athletics. Luckily as i have aged i have much more perspective on the importance of college sports. Up until a few years ago i would have been going all jang in this thread freaking out about falling behind.
That said it's all about money now and if people aren't paying it we won't compete at the highest levels. Hopefully other people will pay and i can maintain am interest in auburn athletics. Luckily as i have aged i have much more perspective on the importance of college sports. Up until a few years ago i would have been going all jang in this thread freaking out about falling behind.
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Posted on 10/17/23 at 3:25 pm to RandySavage
I am not freaking out. There is an apparent break from reality and just pointing it out. The NIL might be silly but its not bigfoot. It is real and there is a new world in receuiting.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 3:35 pm to jangalang
This is a fact. From everything I hear our NIL is measuring up to the SEC standards, but I get frustrated when people are willing to complain about Saturday, but are unwilling to contribute on any level. If I don't vote, then I don't speak personally. Being vocal without a contribution just isn't what I'M willing to do. I do understand the need to know how your money is being spent before contributing though.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 3:53 pm to Johnnycrane
This ^^^. Blows my mind how people whose hobby is discussing Auburn sports on a message board try to act like giving $34 a month is ridiculous. I give because I want to see a good product from Auburn Athletics and don’t want to just complain about it. If you can’t afford it I get it.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 4:07 pm to Johnnycrane
I don’t why people get frustrated over things they cannot control and doesn’t really matter. This is a public forum that is free. Fans are going to complain about the state of the programs. It has no affect on anything else except maybe some feelings being hurt. Some people can afford NIL but choose not to and will be here to complain or question. It will only bother you if you let it.
Some people do not agree with NIL on principle but still support their school and teams. Contribute other ways. Silly to add must pay NIL as a qualifier to express opinions.
Some people do not agree with NIL on principle but still support their school and teams. Contribute other ways. Silly to add must pay NIL as a qualifier to express opinions.
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Posted on 10/17/23 at 4:26 pm to jangalang
NIL does matter to compete. Me saying it doesn’t matter in my post above, I mean them calling people out complaining but don’t give NIL funding won’t matter. They cannot control content expressed on this board.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 4:26 pm to LanierSpots
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If they want that program to be sucessful in todays world, they need to figure it out.
In today's world relies, heavily, on NIL though.
You don't have to like it, or even participate in it, but it's a reality right now.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 4:31 pm to jangalang
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Nobody gives a frick about your bait money dude. You're a retard.
That’s a low blow on someone making an honest living…
Auburn has spent $37 million dollars on paying 2 coaches to NOT coach since 2020, just in the past three years! I too don’t trust them to use the resources properly, they will find a way to frick it up.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 4:33 pm to LanierSpots
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IF NIL is the way to go, Auburn needs to find that needed funds. Not by asking the fans.
Who are they supposed to ask, outside of the usual big fish that always give big money no matter what, other than Auburn sports fans?
Posted on 10/17/23 at 4:34 pm to AUcs13
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This ^^^. Blows my mind how people whose hobby is discussing Auburn sports on a message board try to act like giving $34 a month is ridiculous. I give because I want to see a good product from Auburn Athletics and don’t want to just complain about it. If you can’t afford it I get it.
It blows my mind a lot of times on what people spend money on so we’re in the same boat there.
Everybody feels bad for the kids not making any money off these huge TV contracts. Then somehow the fix is to get the everyday Joe to pay the kid while the university is still rolling in money from the contracts. How does that make sense to you? Then to blow your mind even more. Where does the money from the big TV contracts come from? You paying your cable bill.
I know none of that is really Auburn’s fault necessarily but I don’t really care whos fault it is. I will continue watching Auburn and pulling for Auburn just as much as I always have. But I’m not going to get guilted into further funding someone else’s pockets to validate my fandom. Sorry.
You can argue “what’s $36 a month?” all you want. But that’s what financially undisciplined people say. It’s why a majority of America is living pay check to paycheck. I’d rather put $36 a month in my investment account.
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