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re: Old Recruiting Thread: RIP insiders
Posted on 10/17/23 at 11:57 am to smuphy72
Posted on 10/17/23 at 11:57 am to smuphy72
quote:The next level in NIL should/hopefully will be integration with vendors/perks/Tigers Unlimited/Auburn.
I donate 34 a month to it, but I honestly feel like you get nothing tangible in return.
Wish they could work some kind of on to victory deal out with Peter Millar or other clothing companies because the current line of clothing isn’t great and make them exclusively sold to OTV members.
Something like:
Level 1 - you get a pin or something saying you're a member, bumper sticker, maybe a livestrong style bracelet, whatever
Level 2 - exclusive swag only given to members
Level 3 - more swag, autographed memorabilia
Level 4 - ties into tigers unlimited status
Level 5 - exclusive perks
This post was edited on 10/17/23 at 11:58 am
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Posted on 10/17/23 at 12:01 pm to ALhunter
^this. From what I know about our Collective they really only need the 34 a month people to cover the day to day costs of operation. The big donors make up the recruiting money etc.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 12:07 pm to LanierSpots
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I never said, I don't care about recruiting
NIL is directly connected to recruiting success and vice versa. If NIL is silly to you then you cannot complain about recruiting.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 12:10 pm to jangalang
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If NIL is silly to you then you cannot complain about recruiting.
You are making me want to get involved with this thread on a daily basis, just to frick with you
You know, one day you are going to say it again. That thing that you said that was in my sig for over a year
You will say it again about this. You just dont know it yet
Let's talk some recruiting. who we buying this week?
This post was edited on 10/17/23 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 10/17/23 at 12:20 pm to jangalang
I'm with you here. If you want things to improve then contribute. Texas and Oklahoma fans aren't going back and forth about NIL. The last few weeks have been frustrating, but let's not lose sight of the bigger goal
Posted on 10/17/23 at 12:33 pm to LanierSpots
Ill find you in your fishing threads. Bet
It needed to be pointed out that you cannot tip toe around your disgruntlement with Freeze's recruitment of directional schools while claiming NIL is a waste of money. NIL is the new world. If you dont want the new world stop following football.
You need this disclaimer whenever you post:
"Although NIL is just as instrumental in landing recruits as wins and coaching acumen, I choose to resist donating for our efforts and heartily embrace the consequences of ignoring NIL to the peril of our own interests because I believe the program to be silly. However Hugh better recruit well, and I am going to sit on my 30,000 dollar boat and explain to you why."
It needed to be pointed out that you cannot tip toe around your disgruntlement with Freeze's recruitment of directional schools while claiming NIL is a waste of money. NIL is the new world. If you dont want the new world stop following football.
You need this disclaimer whenever you post:
"Although NIL is just as instrumental in landing recruits as wins and coaching acumen, I choose to resist donating for our efforts and heartily embrace the consequences of ignoring NIL to the peril of our own interests because I believe the program to be silly. However Hugh better recruit well, and I am going to sit on my 30,000 dollar boat and explain to you why."
This post was edited on 10/17/23 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 10/17/23 at 1:25 pm to Johnnycrane
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let's not lose sight of the bigger goal
Paying however much to NIL which I have no management of or influence over does not fit in to any of my bigger goals.
If people want to give, great. If people don’t want to give, great. Both are still going to be around here bitching about recruiting when we cut DeAndre Carter loose.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 1:42 pm to Weagle25
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If people want to give, great. If people don’t want to give, great. Both are still going to be around here bitching about recruiting when we cut DeAndre Carter loose.
It has literally been my only one point on the people here. If you are giving to it, it gives you no position to bitch more or less than those that dont. Your pennies are just going to be wasted by a place that knows how to waste money like no other. You have zero position because of it
Posted on 10/17/23 at 1:46 pm to jangalang
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It needed to be pointed out that you cannot tip toe around your disgruntlement with Freeze's recruitment of directional schools while claiming NIL is a waste of money.
I have not tip toed around it at all. I have pretty much spelled it out. Numerous times
I think giving money to Auburn to buy players is a stupid investment of my money. Period
I also think Freeze bringing in transfers from shite level school are not going to help in the long run. There may be a gem in there but for the most part, they will not compete against our rivals
Those two things I have not tip toed around. I believe both of them
How did it become my responsibility all the sudden to help Auburn bring in talent? Im sorry if some accept that responsibility but I dont. Auburn is a billion dollar industry and has graduates, who directly benefitted from the athletics program, that make billions because of it. Not me. It's not my responsibility to help them. They need to be addressing that need from a different revenue stream.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 1:52 pm to LanierSpots
Maybe, or maybe not. I cannot tell you that our money won't be wasted or mismanaged, but you can't prove without a shadow of a doubt that it will be. Again, nobody has the right to tell you or anyone else what to do with their cash, just know that the future is NIL (of some sort) and that ain't changing. We adjust or die
Posted on 10/17/23 at 1:56 pm to Johnnycrane
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just know that the future is NIL (of some sort) and that ain't changing. We adjust or die
I agree with everything you said, except this.
It will eventually be gone. Or extremely different than it is now. I believe
This post was edited on 10/17/23 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 10/17/23 at 1:58 pm to LanierSpots
I hope so. This doesn't seem sustainable for most.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 1:58 pm to Johnnycrane
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cannot tell you that our money won't be wasted or mismanaged, but you can't prove without a shadow of a doubt that it will be.
Well to get me to give money, the burden of proof would be on the entity wanting the money. Not on me. What a ridiculous statement that was.
Also even if we land recruits, I would argue it’s still a waste of money. Just whether I’m willing to tolerate the wasting of the money.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 1:59 pm to LanierSpots
Posted on 10/17/23 at 2:02 pm to TheJones
In Lanier world, she has her shirt off
Posted on 10/17/23 at 2:05 pm to Weagle25
Hmmmm, Maybe they should roll out a campaign for those who want to know EXACTLY how their on to Victory cash$$$ is being spent? Would that make an impact? Kinda like a quarterly update of progress and upcoming project? There's absolutely no way to say they'll use it properly though. Just spitballing here lol
Posted on 10/17/23 at 2:15 pm to LanierSpots
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I think giving money to Auburn to buy players is a stupid investment of my money. Period
When our top recruits that you (we) wanted got NIL to go elsewhere what do you expect then?
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I also think Freeze bringing in transfers from shite level school are not going to help in the long run. There may be a gem in there but for the most part, they will not compete against our rivals
Well, you dont really care to provide NIL when our peers do. What did you expect? Take a wild guess why we didnt get our top QB transfers in the portal.
quote:Nobody wants your freeriding money. We dont want to hear your complaints either.
How did it become my responsibility all the sudden to help Auburn bring in talent? Im sorry if some accept that responsibility but I dont. Auburn is a billion dollar industry and has graduates, who directly benefitted from the athletics program, that make billions because of it. Not me. It's not my responsibility to help them. They need to be addressing that need from a different revenue stream.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 2:25 pm to Weagle25
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Also even if we land recruits, I would argue it’s still a waste of money. Just whether I’m willing to tolerate the wasting of the money.
The whole Miami team that put out Jabari and Kessler were pure NIL. We dont have to agree with it but its a necessity that will kill us as long as our collectives perform poorly or they match their grassroot conservative greed. I remember Bruce losing some stud to a Tennessee based on NIL.
This post was edited on 10/17/23 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 10/17/23 at 2:26 pm to jangalang
Well, if y’all want good news we dropped Lewis and Collins to free up future NIL money for some playas.
Posted on 10/17/23 at 2:26 pm to jangalang
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Nobody wants your freeriding money. We dont want to hear your complaints either.
Your problem with all this is that you can not have a discussion or debate without turning it into a shite show.
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When our top recruits that you (we) wanted got NIL to go elsewhere what do you expect then?
I expect Auburn to handle its business. If they do, great. If they dont, then whatever.
It is not my responsibility to do their job for them. They have a D1, SEC football program. If they want that program to be sucessful in todays world, they need to figure it out. I dont call Auburn when I am in need of paying my rent or expanding my business for help. It's my responsibility. Just as building a competitive football program so they can keep the benefits of that is theirs.
A school like Auburn that goes through the money that they have, asking fans to help them build their program is one of the craziest things Ive every heard of. Why not get those funds from the people who directly benefit or have benifitted from the athletic program.
Auburn has alumni and sponsors and partners that help them raise money. Blatantly asking fans for money to buy high school players is absolutely absurd.
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