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Posted on 12/19/20 at 10:54 am to
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 12/19/20 at 10:54 am to
Could also mean we never actually offered MC and implemented a legit coaching search? Preformed some background checks and setup interviews. Dunno.
Posted by BuckFama334
Central Alabama
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 12/19/20 at 10:55 am to
Well, if there is any validity to all of this mutiny talk the whole staff needs to go in the trash can.

Good news is that is probably their fate. None of our current candidates have any ties with our current staff other than Napier & Elliott both working with Steele at Clemson. Napier also worked with Steele at Bama, but nobody knows their relationship.
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
5488 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 10:56 am to
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Just go back through this thread. People are claiming Gus is "made" to hire certain people. Hire certain coordinators. Bottom line. No one knows anything. There is maybe 10% truth and 90% BS.
I'm NOT saying its fact.. but I've heard that for a couple of years now. I think the Steele hire might be one that was forced on him. I'm not positive, but I think I heard that from 247 writers.. This is one of those times I wish E was here.. he would have came with the receipts.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 12/19/20 at 10:57 am to
E just repeats what he reads on message boards. There has been no credible source at AU since Tubs left.
This post was edited on 12/19/20 at 10:59 am
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 12/19/20 at 11:01 am to
I am with you. When you consider the names we have heard I am for Napier. Doesn't mean that we don't know everyone involved or there might be a candidate come out of left field. Also might be candidates that we would never suspect.
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
5488 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 11:01 am to
He would have had some links to drop though instead of me just saying "I think I remember" which admittedly doesn't mean much.
Posted by robbykidd
Tulsa
Member since May 2011
1404 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 11:04 am to
All this ^

Anyone that thinks Greene is part of Alabama’s good ole boys group has lost their mind. That shite left with JJ. Greene brings a professionalism to the department that Auburn fans aren’t used to. It’s the fans and writers that are the shite-show

Greene is a stud AD. I fully trust that he leads a professional search for the next coach and that he will find a good, well respected coach to lead this program. I could have put out that same “list” of zoom meetings...didn’t take a genius to put that list together. I can assure you that list didn’t “leak” from the athletic department. The only one I believe reported is the Sark interview...and Steele getting a token interview. Everything else is speculation.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
51926 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 11:05 am to
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I understand everyone needs a boogie man. Human nature when information is lacking. Rane/Harbert isn't as influential as tRant hopes for.
You can choose to believe that Harbert isn’t very influential but then I don’t understand how Gus got that big contract. Both 247 and Rivals say it was Harbert.

I’m less directly informed being a side walker, so I will let someone else take over from here.
This post was edited on 12/19/20 at 11:08 am
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
51926 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 11:07 am to
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All this ^

Anyone that thinks Greene is part of Alabama’s good ole boys group has lost their mind. That shite left with JJ. Greene brings a professionalism to the department that Auburn fans aren’t used to. It’s the fans and writers that are the shite-show

Greene is a stud AD. I fully trust that he leads a professional search for the next coach and that he will find a good, well respected coach to lead this program. I could have put out that same “list” of zoom meetings...didn’t take a genius to put that list together. I can assure you that list didn’t “leak” from the athletic department. The only one I believe reported is the Sark interview...and Steele getting a token interview. Everything else is speculation.

So many narratives. I just can’t keep up anymore. Shooty hoops soon.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45210 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 11:07 am to
I put this in the discord, but needs repeating. Steele very well could be holding the fort down for the new coach and then retire. We need to hold our frustrations on him until the process is over. He could be doing us a solid while AG holds a legit search. Vetting candidates, reading their plan for the program, etc. Our beat writers have been proven to be hacks the past decade. That wouldn't change now.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 11:08 am to
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Blame Leath all you want, but if Lowder was still running the show that big extension would never have happened. Period.


I believe that also.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
19728 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 11:13 am to
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Greene is a stud AD. I fully trust that he leads a professional search for the next coach and that he will find a good, well respected coach to lead this program.
I want to believe this is the case.

However, if we end up promoting Steele, I will believe exactly the opposite.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
70528 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 11:14 am to
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This is one of those times I wish E was here.. he would have came with the receipts.


Jesus Christ, if that is a source then we are all fricked. A guy who copies one thing from one site to another. In all honesty, that type of guy is the one who spreads all this shite as being church. People start to believe things that are copied from one place to another.

I know I had a similar opinion of MC but what is it that makes us think Sark would be a good hire. People keep saying that Gus being a 4 loss coach (Auburns historical average) is knocking the program backwards. Sark has zero history in a lesser league against lesser opponents of doing better than that.

Why all of the sudden would he be a 10 game winner at one of the hardest places to win in college football?

One of my biggest issues with things said and stated on this board is that so many of us use emotion to make decisions. It has been that way for many years here. For ever it was, "Anybody but Gus". now that has happened and we have some saying Auburn is a top job and we should be able to get a top tier coach even though that has never happened in our history. All the while, others are panicking after one week and are willing basically take anyone but Steele.

Makes no sense. Auburn should be in no hurry right now. The should spend the time and get the very best candidate out there. Not just someone to fill the seat quickly. They paid a ton of money to do this. And if they are going to fire the rest of the coaches like some of you want, they are going to add to that tally another 9 mil.

Slow down, get the best guy they can

Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
5488 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 11:17 am to
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Jesus Christ, if that is a source then we are all fricked. A guy who copies one thing from one site to another. In all honesty, that type of guy is the one who spreads all this shite as being church. People start to believe things that are copied from one place to anot
Anything I've heard came from 247. I was just saying E would have had to links ready as opposed to me having to take time to go back and look for them.
Posted by Rhymenoceros
Atlanta, Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
4729 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 11:18 am to
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Greene is a stud AD


What’s crazy to me is that the general consensus on this Board is that AG is a solid AD, and doing a great job even though I think he is constrained some, which isn’t his fault.

But I listened to a JGT podcast with Jeff Lee and Bryan Matthew’s and they say the complete opposite, that he’s a fish out of water at AU and he needs to go somewhere else and is overall not doing any good.

Obviously there is a power struggle of sorts at the top here
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45210 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 11:18 am to
I believe you. My point is 247, former player, etc dont know more that BuckFama.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 11:18 am to
Leath was a disaster at Auburn That man pissed off a lot of people at Auburn during his time. And I know some specific examples which I won't repeat here. And they didn't involve athletics so much. He should have never been hired.
This post was edited on 12/19/20 at 11:19 am
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
23941 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 11:19 am to
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I think the Steele hire might be one that was forced on him

I doubt that. Wasn't Steele hired after Muschamp left and we were turned down by a myriad of other coaches (like Lance Thompson and Charles Kelly)? Seems I remember Gus interviewing a ton of folks before finally sticking on Steele.

I know for a fact he was forced to make at least one of the OC changes. But, that was under JJ and I think everyone here probably knows he was forced to fire Lashlee.
This post was edited on 12/19/20 at 11:21 am
Posted by jt33
Member since Aug 2017
5488 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 11:24 am to
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I doubt that. Wasn't Steele hired after Muschamp left and we were turned down by a myriad of other coaches (like Lance Thompson and Charles Kelly)? Seems I remember Gus interviewing a ton of folks before finally sticking on Steele.

I know for a fact he was forced to make at least one of the OC changes. But, that was under JJ and I think everyone here probably knows he was forced to fire Lashlee.
I honestly can't remember and I don't really want to push the rumor anymore than I already have, without being able to drop links to back it up.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
51926 posts
Posted on 12/19/20 at 11:25 am to
It’s not in Auburns’s best interests to have a bridge hire. 1. firing Gus to have a bridge hire is ludicrous and reads like a F you to Gus since he was doing fine holding the fort down. Steele’s OC coming in and installing a pro style offense when we have recruits recruited for another purpose is going to be another needless snag as well.


2. As others said, it also opens Auburn up to having another lapse of continuity in the upcoming years, and to an immense amount of vulnerability in recruiting. Our recruits will be told by our rivals they won’t know who they will be playing for in 2 to 3 years. And that will hurt.

Keeping Steele at Auburn as DC is fine but half assing the replacement isn’t. Just pull the bandaid and move on
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