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re: Muschamp is the new Auburn DC.

Posted on 12/3/14 at 11:18 am to
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
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Posted on 12/3/14 at 11:18 am to
Odom is a strong candidate. Coached (2004-2011) at Mizzou and played LB at MIZZOU. Memphis DC 2012-14 and they have improved from the worse defense in the county. Runs a 4-3 Known as a strong recruiter.

He is my second choice and I would not be disappointed with him.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
4576 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 11:21 am to
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Does anyone know anything about this guy, other than that he coaches defense at Memphis?

Seems like it would be a huge letdown if we ended up with him...


He is a highly regarded up and comer. There was a lot of talk about him being Arkansas' new DC back in January. He is also a candidate at Texas A&M.
This post was edited on 12/3/14 at 11:22 am
Posted by BZ853
Member since Aug 2013
1857 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 11:39 am to
Clark would be a great hire. And to think otherwise is ignorant. Muschamp would be a better hire but for Auburn Clark is an easy number 2 choice.
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18453 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 11:49 am to
PAM is saying our offer is near 1.5. No time table. Odom and Clark in line.

I am not sure how long Gus waits. Probable Monday at the latest.
Posted by AUtigR24
Happy Hour
Member since Apr 2011
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Posted on 12/3/14 at 11:49 am to
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Does anyone know anything about this guy, other than that he coaches defense at Memphis?


His stats are very underwhelming during his Memphis tenure
Posted by WareagleKK
Milton, GA (ur welcome for Lawson)
Member since May 2012
2749 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 11:51 am to
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His stats are very underwhelming during his Memphis tenure


Huh? Which stats exactly do you feel are underwhelming?
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 12/3/14 at 11:51 am to
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PAM is saying our offer is near 1.5. No time table.


Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
4576 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 11:56 am to
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His stats are very underwhelming during his Memphis tenure


The frick are you on? They were ranked in the 100's in virtually every category prior to him getting there. They finished this season 7th in Scoring Defense and ~Top 25 in basically every category (Run, Pass Efficiency, Total, Red Zone, 3rd Down).
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
14285 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:00 pm to
I have warmed up to Odom. Here is his defense's resumes for this year. All rankings are national

9th Points allowed per game
3rd in yards per point
4th points per play
8th Red Zone possessions allowed per game
1st Red Zone scores per game allowed
2nd Red Zone score % allowed
13th TDs allowed per game
32nd yards per game allowed
17th yards allowed per play
9th in Punts per play allowed
4th in Punts per offensive score allowed
21st rush yards allowed per game
9th in rushing first downs allowed per game
23rd in yards per rush attempt
27th in completion% allowed per game
11th opponent QB passer rating allowed
16th yards per pass attempt allowed
27th yards allowed per completion
25th INTs per game
5th in fumbles forced per game
17th takeaways per game
9th opponents turnover margin+
Posted by Mac5500
Auburn
Member since Jul 2013
2499 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:05 pm to
My only issue with Odom and Clark is their ability to recruit. We need help immediately in recruiting on the defensice side of the ball. They very well might be great coaches, but we need talent, especially in the secondary and DL, to want to join this class. I just don't see recruits getting excited about playing for either of those guys and wanting to hop on board.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45146 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:07 pm to
Would be a major flaw with both. We are looking at 1-2 recruiting cycles with both to really know how good they are at recruiting GA and FL, which we need to be successful.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
47616 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:08 pm to
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Clark would be a great hire. And to think otherwise is ignorant. Muschamp would be a better hire but for Auburn Clark is an easy number 2 choice.

What makes him easy number two? I don't know much about him but I don't see how you can be the easy choice when he hasn't ever coached at this level.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
47616 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:10 pm to
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My only issue with Odom and Clark is their ability to recruit. We need help immediately in recruiting on the defensice side of the ball. They very well might be great coaches, but we need talent, especially in the secondary and DL, to want to join this class. I just don't see recruits getting excited about playing for either of those guys and wanting to hop on board.

Muschamp is really the only guy that will get guys on board immediately. If they produce good defenses the players will come.
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
14285 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:10 pm to
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we need talent, especially in the secondary and DL, to want to join this class. I just don't see recruits getting excited about playing for either of those guys and wanting to hop on board.

I agree we need talent because you always need talent to improve your chances of being succesful. But I do think there is more talent there than people realixed and was shown on the field because of poor coaching, lack of upperclassmen leadership, and lack of practicing fundamentals and physicality against SEC speed and talent.
Posted by atlau
Member since Oct 2012
5264 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:11 pm to
I think the biggest thing with Boom is he is a known commodity at this point. Has a lot of experience coaching in this conference as well as recruiting in it.

I just don't see Malzahn taking a chance on one of these two guys. If you go back and look, Ellis had a more impressive resume than either of them.

I just wonder if the reports are wrong about Odom and Clark. Look when Gus first got here and tapped Rich Bisaccia as special teams coach. I have no idea where that relationship came from, but it would have been awesome if not for the Cowboys.
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
45146 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:14 pm to
It is safe to assume the Clark and Odom talk is in the event WM says no. Everyone's main choice is Will.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
4576 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:16 pm to
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I just don't see Malzahn taking a chance on one of these two guys. If you go back and look, Ellis had a more impressive resume than either of them.


No shite; Ellis is 60+ years old and has been at half the schools in the SEC. Of course his resume is going to look "better" than two guys who are just rising up the ranks. shite like that means nothing, we tried the "safe" approach with Ellis who was proven and it flopped. At the end of the day Memphis' defense shits on our own, with a quarter the talent.
Posted by ellitor
Member since Sep 2012
14285 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:16 pm to
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Would be a major flaw with both. We are looking at 1-2 recruiting cycles with both to really know how good they are at recruiting GA and FL, which we need to be successful.
6 and 7A high school fans in Alabama hate Clark an understandably so but many high school coaches in Alabama respect him and therefore I thunk Clark could help close the gap on in state recruiting and be a major thorn in wee man's arse. Plus you know Clark would probably be motivated as hell to stick to Bama after their BOTs shut down his football program at UAB.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
9169 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:19 pm to
What about Bob Shoop, Penn State's DC? He did a phenomenal job at Vanderbilt and this year has Penn State's defense at #3
Posted by atlau
Member since Oct 2012
5264 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 12:23 pm to
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At the end of the day Memphis' defense shits on our own, with a quarter the talent.


They also play in the American conference that had over half the teams finish the regular season under .500 this year.
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