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re: Let's get behind Harsin
Posted on 7/7/22 at 7:50 am to freemanjiro
Posted on 7/7/22 at 7:50 am to freemanjiro
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the AU family is not giving him much help.
What do you suggest? That we sit in front of the stadium in the blistering heat holding "We Support Harsin" signs? Do you think we are breaking his spirit by posting our opinions here? Do you think he gives AF what any of us thinks?
The Auburn coaching job is just that. It is a job with expectations for performance. We are all expected to meet certain standards at work. Granted, the Auburn football coaching job is one of the toughest in the country but he took the job knowing that. He convinced the search committee that he could do it. He gets paid handsomely to do it. If he does not meet the expectations he will be asked to leave just as any of us would at our jobs.
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Posted on 7/7/22 at 8:14 am to MrAUTigers
quote:We do. Then Harsin went on a 5 game losing streak, performed horribly in recruiting and allowed our starting legacy qb to transfer.
We should get behind every new coach Auburn hires...........always.
Add in the internal scandal/smear campaign by our PTB and there isn't much to get behind. If we would have won against bama he would have more wiggle room. But he didn't, and he doesn't
Posted on 7/7/22 at 8:30 am to ChexMix
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We do. Then Harsin went on a 5 game losing streak, performed horribly in recruiting and allowed our starting legacy qb to transfer.
with a team he inherited. You are proof positive, time after time, what a moronic fanbase we have.
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Add in the internal scandal/smear campaign by our PTB and there isn't much to get behind. I
Yes, that was his fault.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 8:34 am to MrAUTigers
quote:Gus never lost 5 games in a row. Stop making excuses for Harsin
with a team he inherited. You are proof positive, time after time, what a moronic fanbase we have.
quote:always have to make it personal. Childish
with a team he inherited. You are proof positive, time after time, what a moronic fanbase we have.
quote:Doesnt matter whose fault it is, it happened and deteriorated whatever support he had
Yes, that was his fault
Posted on 7/7/22 at 8:49 am to ChexMix
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Gus never lost 5 games in a row. Stop making excuses for Harsin
every Auburn fan with an ounce of common sense knew last year was going to be a challenge. Our OL was without talent. Our WR room was not good. Our DL was thin. We totally changed our O and D philosophy.
Those aren't excuses. They are facts. Give the guy a few years and see if he is the answer. He may not be, but you can't tell a damn thing after one season about anybody.
ETA we will never get a good coach the way we want to run them off constantly. This is the choice that was made. Let's see what he can do.
This post was edited on 7/7/22 at 8:51 am
Posted on 7/7/22 at 8:59 am to MrAUTigers
quote:No those are opinions. Learn the difference
Those aren't excuses. They are facts.
quote:i dont feel sorry for a coach getting paid millions. He knew what he was getting into when he took the job and if he didnt, thats on him.
ETA we will never get a good coach the way we want to run them off constantly.
ASking for fans to blindly support the coach after failing in his first year to meet even mild expectations doenst fly.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 9:06 am to ChexMix
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No those are opinions. Learn the difference
so you are telling me we had a deep solid OL, a solid WR room, and a deep talented DL? Is that your stance on the situation?
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i dont feel sorry for a coach getting paid millions.
this is the biggest BS cop out thing I see posted.........always. ANY HC, and the entire staff, on the field and behind the scenes, uproot their family and move to wherever they are employed.
People like you are why we will never get a solid established HC. We will have to get the up-and-comer and hope they work out.
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ASking for fans to blindly support the coach after failing in his first year to meet even mild expectations doenst fly.
Maybe your expectations were too high? and yes, I will always support every new coach at Auburn...........until they have had a chance to establish their program. If they can't get the job done, move on. One year is laughable.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 9:31 am to MrAUTigers
quote:Nope. OL performed better than expected, DL wasn't as thin as you are making it out to be and yes, they are talented. WR room didn't have a go to receiver, but to say they are void of talent is inaccurate, however i will say they were the weakest group i've seen in years.
so you are telling me we had a deep solid OL, a solid WR room, and a deep talented DL? Is that your stance on the situation?
quote:And? Why you crying about it?
this is the biggest BS cop out thing I see posted.........always. ANY HC, and the entire staff, on the field and behind the scenes, uproot their family and move to wherever they are employed.
quote:yeah, its my fault. FFS this is how your brain works? Devoid of logic
People like you are why we will never get a solid established HC.
quote:I expected to win 8 games. With what we returned, that should have been the floor. Choking the game away against MSU and losing to USCe were shining examples of failing to meet expectations.
Maybe your expectations were too high? and yes, I will always support every new coach at Auburn...........until they have had a chance to establish their program. If they can't get the job done, move on. One year is laughable.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:03 am to MrAUTigers
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Every Auburn fan with an ounce of common sense knew last year was going to be a challenge. Our OL was without talent. Our WR room was not good.
Okay, but realize that Bryan Harsin has been here through three transfer portal windows, and he has done virtually nothing to change either of those two situations?
In ~1.5 years on the job he has brought in zero transfer portal OL, and just 2 HS OL (one of whom literally just followed Will Friend over from Tennessee). You say that the OL is without talent, and yet he chose to bring back the entire group for this upcoming season. So either he thinks the group is good, or he simply couldn't do a good enough job to recruit over them through the portal. If he thinks the group is good, then you can't use that as an excuse. If the group is bad and he just failed to replace them, then that is his own fault and his own failure.
At WR, you state that the room was not good (this was known). But in that case, why was our lone transfer portal addition last season Demetris Robertson - a 5th year castoff from Georgia who had limited upside as anything more than a guy who fills a space on the depth chart?
The problem is that you seem to be giving Harsin passes for "talent deficiencies" that he himself had all the opportunity in the world to address, but he didn't because he either didn't feel there was need (this is bad), or he saw the talent deficiencies but was unable to address them properly (this is also bad). So there really is no legitimate excuse, lol. The transfer portal has changed the timeframe for coaches completely - it is no longer acceptable to pretend that a coach needs ~4 years to completely revamp the roster. Mel Tucker literally did it in 1 year at Michigan State.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:09 am to metafour
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The transfer portal has changed the timeframe for coaches completely - it is no longer acceptable to pretend that a coach needs ~4 years to completely revamp the roster. Mel Tucker literally did it in 1 year at Michigan State.
I think this is the new expectation.
Personally, I would be happy with low hanging fruit like not losing to South Carolina.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:10 am to MrAUTigers
I like how we only count the bowl games if/when it fits our agenda....in this case, it allows the folks who don't like to consider context to complain that 'WE LOST 5 IN A ROW'
For the life of me, I'll never understand how we lost a single game with the superstar all american first rounder backup quarterback after our starter broke his ankle.
For the life of me, I'll never understand how we lost a single game with the superstar all american first rounder backup quarterback after our starter broke his ankle.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:13 am to AUjim
quote:Well, we lost 5 in a row. But lets suspend reality and perform mental gymnastics to create excuses for poor coaching performances.
I like how we only count the bowl games if/when it fits our agenda....in this case, it allows the folks who don't like to consider context to complain that 'WE LOST 5 IN A ROW'
Any excuses for losing to Miss St? Anyone?
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:15 am to metafour
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The problem is that you seem to be giving Harsin passes for "talent deficiencies" that he himself had all the opportunity in the world to address, but he didn't because he either didn't feel there was need (this is bad), or he saw the talent deficiencies but was unable to address them properly (this is also bad).
he had been at Auburn for eight months when last season started. Did you expect him to overhaul the roster in that timeframe. Again, that is as unreasonable expectations as it gets.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:19 am to ChexMix
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Any excuses for losing to Miss St? Anyone?
our DC had his thumb up his arse the entire game and watched their QB pick us apart without sending any pressure.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:19 am to MrAUTigers
quote:Gus did pretty well salvaging his first recruiting class iirc.
he had been at Auburn for eight months when last season started. Did you expect him to overhaul the roster in that timeframe. Again, that is as unreasonable expectations as it gets.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:21 am to AUjim
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For the life of me, I'll never understand how we lost a single game with the superstar all american first rounder backup quarterback after our starter broke his ankle.
They lost the USCe game because someone thought it was a good idea to try to make TJ Finley win the game with his arm, even though Tank Bigsby was literally running all over them and couldn't be stopped. The game was lost when we went for it on 4th and short before halftime on our own half of the field - the play called was a TJ Finley pass down the field to Demetris Robertson. South Carolina stopped it easily (a bad QB throwing a pass to a bad WR lol) and then they scored. We were winning up until that point.
So again, try to use your brain a little bit and understand that we lost games due to really poor coaching decisions. South Carolina was playing with their 3rd string QB and they managed to beat us, so what's the excuse there?
Playing with a backup QB is unfortunate. Losing games because you make poor coaching or play-calling decisions is not unfortunate.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:22 am to ChexMix
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Gus did pretty well salvaging his first recruiting class iirc.
Gus had been gone one year and had recruited everybody on the O side of the ball.............and had recruited a lot in that signing class. Again, facts and shite.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:22 am to MrAUTigers
quote:So that was a good loss for Harsin. Not his fault at all. Cool. War Eagle!
our DC had his thumb up his arse the entire game and watched their QB pick us apart without sending any pressure.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:23 am to MrAUTigers
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Again, facts and shite.
quote:exactly. facts and shite
Gus did pretty well salvaging his first recruiting class iirc.
Posted on 7/7/22 at 10:24 am to ChexMix
Their QB was 44/55 for 415 yds and 6 TD's.
Yes, that is on the O minded HC.
it cetainly wasn't on the guy who was calling the D
Yes, that is on the O minded HC.
it cetainly wasn't on the guy who was calling the D
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