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Posted on 10/21/24 at 7:00 am to Fearless and True
Don't let any donors help decide who to hire. I think that would fix the problem. Maybe have an independent group research metrics such as assistant hire strength, player development, win percentage, liability, etc. They present 3-5 candidates based on their scores and the AD chooses. I think they've been choosing coaches based on feelings or prior connections and not actually productivity.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 8:06 am to Fearless and True
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How did we manage to get Pat Dye in 1980? What has changed since then that we can't attract an up-and-comer?
I won't even pretend to know. But I think it's pretty obvious from our last few hires that we can't exactly pull an A-lister. Tubs was the last solid hire we had, imo. I was not mad with the Freeze hire because I knew it could have been much worse. He wasn't my choice but it was so much better than many other names I was hearing. I think that Freeze has to be given next year. At the very least, I think he'd leave the program in much better shape (talent wise) than it was when he got here.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 8:48 am to Scoper
Auburn is 0-16 in games against ranked opponents…. which pre-dates the arrival of Freeze.
The root cause is a lack of talent in the starters and depth. And you can thank Malzahn/Harsin for that
Posted on 10/21/24 at 8:57 am to NewYrkTiger
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I honestly don’t remember a single person saying he was a slam dunk hire. I think most were mildly disappointed, but willing to give him a chance.
There were a few, I don't dig for receipts, but maybe greygoose and beachbum?
Posted on 10/21/24 at 8:57 am to jangalang
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Most of the anti-freeze fans had a moral issue than anything.
I wasn't a fan of his morals, but could get past it. Mainly, I thought he was a dumbass for that whole scandal.
I mostly thought Freeze was an 8-3 type coach at best.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 9:00 am to cadillacattack
I would also venture to say lack of fundamentals as well. They don't look like a well coached team. Poor blocking, tackling, loafing on routes, etc. That may tie into talent some but there's a lot less talented teams doing better than auburn right now.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 9:12 am to Scoper
Liberty Flames Football
2024 5-0
2023 13-1 CUSA Champ (beat NMSU)
2022 8-5
2021 8-5
2024 5-0
2023 13-1 CUSA Champ (beat NMSU)
2022 8-5
2021 8-5
Posted on 10/21/24 at 3:15 pm to Blueline379
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there's a lot less talented teams doing better than auburn right now.
Which teams did you have in mind?
Posted on 10/21/24 at 3:58 pm to cadillacattack
He ain’t getting fired this season so I don’t see a reason to discuss this yet. If he keeps this class together he has to put together proof of concept next year.
This team is better than the record and with PT at the helm.
This team is better than the record and with PT at the helm.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 4:08 pm to Ccslimm
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This team is better than the record and with PT at the helm.
I agree. I think we legit should go 7-5 this year with this team. Now, that could still happen, but I think 4-8 or 5-7 is where we end up. I think we could possibly beat one we are not supposed to in the last 5, but the problem is, teams not supposed to beat looks very different from what you would have said they were prior to the season,
Posted on 10/21/24 at 4:20 pm to Ccslimm
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This team is better than the record and with PT at the helm.
I agree with you that this team is better with PT at the helm …. but no objective observer would believe this team is “better than the record”
4-8 best case … and let’s hope CHF closes this strong recruiting class … because we sure as hell need it
Posted on 10/21/24 at 4:26 pm to Ccslimm
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This team is better than the record if not for PT at the helm.
Agreed
Posted on 10/21/24 at 4:30 pm to cadillacattack
Caddillac, I think we have two extra wins if only our FG kicker would do his damn job.
With that said, games are not won or lost by one play, but our 14 point leads being given up when 17 mightve been fine is starting to irk. At least get the field goal. Why in the world did we have to such a lousy kicker while everything else is a trainwreck. We have been kickerU since at least Damon Duval FCOL
With that said, games are not won or lost by one play, but our 14 point leads being given up when 17 mightve been fine is starting to irk. At least get the field goal. Why in the world did we have to such a lousy kicker while everything else is a trainwreck. We have been kickerU since at least Damon Duval FCOL
Posted on 10/21/24 at 4:32 pm to jvilletiger25
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Agreed
Your services are needed in the QB transfer thread so that we can sweat through gameplans, identify who has the IT factor, and find the weaknesses.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 4:41 pm to Scoper
Ole Miss was 2-10 the year prior to Freeze being hired. He gave them one of their few 10 wins seasons in their entire football history 4 years later.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 4:49 pm to jvilletiger25
Apparently we are not allowed to talk about that part of Hugh's Ole Miss days. If we were, we wouldnt have to compare his recruiting here to Jimbo, an irrelevant coach considering Hugh recruited well in Ole Miss, finishing number 6 in recruiting one year, and then going to the Sugar Bowl later on.
Posted on 10/21/24 at 5:30 pm to jangalang
Talking about Hughey’s Ole Miss days are just as relevant as talking about Gus’ 2013 season.
But carry on if you may…
But carry on if you may…
Posted on 10/21/24 at 5:35 pm to Hussss
Hugh's recruiting and eventual on field success at Ole Miss as compared to Hugh's recruiting here is more relevant than irrelevant Jimbo. 
Jimbo is relevant to you only because there was that guy, that one time. That's it.
Jimbo is relevant to you only because there was that guy, that one time. That's it.
This post was edited on 10/21/24 at 5:37 pm
Posted on 10/21/24 at 5:43 pm to jangalang
I don’t remember ever mentioning Jimbo
But carry on…
But carry on…
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