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Gus Malzahn is really 22-19 at Auburn

Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:46 pm
Posted by AU24
Toomers Corner
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:46 pm
These are 14 games anyone would win at Auburn that Malzahn gets credit for so taking away these 14 wins. Gus is 22-19 at Auburn.

Ark State 2X
San Jose State 2X
FAU
Western Carolina
LA Tech
Samford
Idaho
Jacksonville State
ULM
Alabama A&M
Memphis
Georgia Southern
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46184 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:51 pm to
So take the easy games Gus wins away from him and compare it to everybody else without taking their easy games away.

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Gus is 22-19 at Auburn.

Gus is 36-19 at Auburn. No need to lie to fit your agenda. We're all frustrated with him
This post was edited on 9/14/17 at 9:54 pm
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
11713 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:52 pm to
This is a dumb idea. You don't need to make ridiculous comparisons to successfully argue Gus is an incompetent coach
Posted by blzr
Keeneland
Member since Mar 2011
30097 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 9:56 pm to
Jesus this is getting ridiculous
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
Member since Jan 2010
21644 posts
Posted on 9/14/17 at 10:06 pm to
I was wrong on my prediction when we hired Gus. I said "Gus is a 7-5 coach who can't scout qbs." Turns out he is an 8-4 coach who can't scout qbs.
Posted by Hussss
Living the Dream
Member since Oct 2016
6742 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 3:16 am to
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Who can't scout OR DEVELOP QB's


FIFY
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12125 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 6:13 am to
Which would still put him 4th on the all time Auburn winning percentages for coaches more than a season and ahead of Tuberville that everyone seems to remember so fondly and just behind Dye. This is a much different time, there is no need in getting rid of any coach until Saban is gone from Alabama, stop rushing to do it.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 6:40 am to
It's not Gus' record against saban that is concerning. It's his record against LSU/UGA that is bothersome.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46184 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 6:47 am to
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It's not Gus' record against saban that is concerning. It's his record against LSU/UGA that is bothersome.

Saban being at Bama effects our record vs everybody
Posted by bawbarn
Member since Jul 2012
3694 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 6:57 am to
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there is no need in getting rid of any coach until Saban is gone from Alabama, stop rushing to do it.


I'm sick of seeing this shite. If Gus was fielding a competitive team that shows he can compete against the best, he could lose every year to Alabama and not get fired.
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12125 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 7:03 am to
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Saban being at Bama effects our record vs everybody



ding ding mother fricking ding. He does in the way he dominates all the recruiting efforts. We are piecing together a much better defense now with Steele at the helm and I am finally seeing a lot of good fundamentals being instilled. We lost against Clemson but it wasn't due to a defensive effort, the longer passes they completed were just that good, we had very few blown coverages and I don't remember any blatant missed tackles. But lets be honest, we aren't getting our top of the board guys on defense, Saban is getting those guys, Meyer is getting those guys.

On offense, their offense doesn't throw the ball worth a shite yet they pull top tier receivers that are willing to ride pine for a year to get screens thrown to them. They have stacks of running backs from around the country and any of them would improve our offense more than likely, they get top linemen. Right now we haven't recruited anything but project tackles the last few years and a lot of guards but yet we are shocked we aren't consistently good on the line.

If, by the time Saban retires from coaching, we still want to get rid of Malzahn then I will throw my hat in the ring and say yes. But until he is gone, Malzahn gives us the best option of competing against him and there is no point in throwing money at other guys to do it.
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12125 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 7:08 am to
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I'm sick of seeing this shite.


Yep, you would rather your emotions and not facts run your life. The fact is that Malzahn is one of the best coaches to ever coach at Auburn (statistical fact) and has done so when the SEC is the strongest it has ever been with the best coach in college history at our rival school.

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If Gus was fielding a competitive team that shows he can compete against the best, he could lose every year to Alabama and not get fired.


We lost by a fricking touchdown against one of the best teams in the nation with a great front seven. I'm not sure what you call competitive but if Tubs had lost that game you would call it a legendary defensive battle rather than an incompetent offensive frick up.

I'm sorry that this board is so full retard right now due to an 8 point loss to the defending champs on a road night game but it is time to face facts, the loss might not be that bad in the end. If we catch fire and find ourselves on offense then we can still make playoffs if that is our only loss.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46184 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 7:10 am to
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I'm sick of seeing this shite. If Gus was fielding a competitive team that shows he can compete against the best, he could lose every year to Alabama and not get fired

Saban being at Bama effects our record vs everybody
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46184 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 7:11 am to
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when the SEC is the strongest it has ever been

No it isnt
Posted by TigerPaw1
Chattanooga, TN
Member since Apr 2011
16979 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 7:13 am to
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This is a dumb idea. You don't need to make ridiculous comparisons to successfully argue Gus is an incompetent coach

This. His record is his record whether you like it or not. You don't have to do some shitty number manipulation to argue making a change
Posted by Warfarer
Dothan, AL
Member since May 2010
12125 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 7:19 am to
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No it isnt


at what point do you think the SEC was stronger than when Malzahn has been here?
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46184 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 7:29 am to
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at what point do you think the SEC was stronger than when Malzahn has been here?

04-13 was much stronger then it has been from 13-now
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17280 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 7:34 am to
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We lost by a fricking touchdown against one of the best teams in the nation with a great front seven. I'm not sure what you call competitive but if Tubs had lost that game you would call it a legendary defensive battle rather than an incompetent offensive frick up.
No, we wouldn't. LSU 2006 was as you described. 2017 Clemson was an embarrassing example of a team coming into a high-profile contest with national implications and being woefully unprepared on offense against a beatable opponent. I hesitate to consider what you would call 'uncompetitive' when our offensive output was the worst in almost four decades of AU football.

Followup stories have indicated disarray amongst the HC and his offensive assistants, leading to shuffling of coaching responsibilities - all coming after three weeks of preseason practice and two weeks into the season. That isn't indicative of a program run by a competent HC, particularly when the breakdowns are on the side of the ball alleged to be his speciality.
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I'm sorry that this board is so full retard right now due to an 8 point loss to the defending champs on a road night game but it is time to face facts, the loss might not be that bad in the end. If we catch fire and find ourselves on offense then we can still make playoffs if that is our only loss.
You might be right - after all, one of the best seasons in AU history occurred following a similar Game 2 offensive meltdown against a national contender (Texas in '83). However, that was only the 25th game of Dye's tenure, and he was still dealing with a roster significantly comprised of Barfield leftovers and more talented but less experienced underclassmen.

Last Saturday was the product of an HC who has been on the job for four and half years, and who had three full seasons coaching offense at AU prior to that. And we're seeing the same lack of imagination and failure to adjust on offense that we've seen consistently for the past 2+ seasons.

Plus, we're paying our coaching staff more than almost every other school in the country. Excuse us for going 'full retard' but it would be difficult for you to convince us we're getting our money's worth.
This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 7:37 am
Posted by Swoopin
Member since Jun 2011
22030 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 8:08 am to
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So take the easy games Gus wins away from him and compare it to everybody else without taking their easy games away.


At the very least you can see that our program under him is almost completely average based on this win %.

Factor in that we think we're a Big 6 program and have at least decent national title expectations, you'd expect to be healthily above 54% against competition with a pulse.
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46184 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 8:23 am to
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At the very least you can see that our program under him is almost completely average based on this win %.

Factor in that we think we're a Big 6 program and have at least decent national title expectations, you'd expect to be healthily above 54% against competition with a pulse.

How do I know that with nothing to compare it to?

We're basically eliminating half of division one schools. Putting us at about 60 schools. So saying we won 54% of our games vs those top 60 schools would put us in the 25-30 range. Obviously a little lower than we would expect to be but not as different as I would think based on his stat.
This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 8:27 am
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