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Gus getting the band back together...

Posted on 12/27/21 at 9:35 pm
Posted by PrisonMike
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Posted on 12/27/21 at 9:35 pm
Chip Lindsey joining Gus at UCF.

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Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
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Posted on 12/27/21 at 9:38 pm to
I kind of wonder what he thinks went wrong at Auburn.


Can’t be the players he recruited. He’s using the same ones.

Can’t be the coaches he hires. He’s using the same ones.

Can’t say the boosters meddled if you do the exact same thing at your next school.
Posted by blzr
Saratoga
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Posted on 12/27/21 at 9:40 pm to
Yikes
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
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Posted on 12/27/21 at 9:46 pm to
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kind of wonder what he thinks went wrong at Auburn.


That's just it. He never thought anything was wrong
Posted by CorchJay
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Posted on 12/27/21 at 9:49 pm to
No one gives a shite what is happening at UCF. I just wanted little pussy cat to put up those same stellar numbers at UCF as he did at AU and I got my wish. Same big name same little production.

Hopefully this shite goes away after spring I would guess around 60% of the roster will be Harsin guys at that point.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 12/27/21 at 9:50 pm to
What happened at Troy? Wasn’t it a bad break up? There’s some speculation that he’s going anywhere but back to high school.
Posted by TheJones
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Posted on 12/27/21 at 10:08 pm to
Lots of off the field rumors but he was a 5-6 or 5-7 winner every year I think
Posted by baldona
Florida
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Posted on 12/28/21 at 7:46 am to
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That's just it. He never thought anything was wrong


Arguably the greatest coach in history is across the state, kinda big deal.

Some of you local ignorant Auburn people can’t accept that as an excuse, but it’s certainly a reason for someone to not to do as well as they could have if it was a lesser coach. Would have been able to recruit better and likely beaten Bama more if it was someone else.

Did we think we were going to have a coach that was better then a top 3 coach ever in football?

ETA: I’m no Gus apologist. But the reality is he didn’t do a bad job. He made some bad mistakes certainly. But some people need to realize the reality of a steep uphill battle.
This post was edited on 12/28/21 at 7:49 am
Posted by wareaglepete
Union of Soviet Auburn Republics
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/28/21 at 8:12 am to
There are lots of recruits around, and we had some really good classes along the way, but Gus let that start to slide a bit. If we had lost 10 years in a row to Bama it would be one thing, but we beat them more than anyone else. The Saban thing is an excuse.
This post was edited on 12/28/21 at 8:14 am
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 12/28/21 at 8:30 am to
Gus’ big problem is that he wouldn’t adapt. He wouldn’t change. Each season became another episode of Groundhog Day. They all contained the same inspiring wins, as well as the same crushing, soul sucking defeats.

Meanwhile, across the state, that other coach revamped his entire philosophy, his process, to stay on the cutting edge of college football. His early teams strangled you with defense. His new teams hang 50-60 on you with a high powered offense.

I liked Gus, but he was too stubborn, too proud, to change.
Posted by FearlessFreep
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Posted on 12/28/21 at 8:51 am to
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Some of you local ignorant Auburn people can’t accept that as an excuse, but it’s certainly a reason for someone to not to do as well as they could have if it was a lesser coach.
Saban didn't have anything to do with our 0-8 road record vs UGa and LSU during Gustav's tenure.

That's what kind of HC Gustav was at AU. The only question now is whether Hars is worse/better/about the same.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 12/28/21 at 8:53 am to
THE BOYS ARE BACK IN TOWN THE BOYS ARE BACK IN TOWWWWN
Posted by blzr
Saratoga
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 12/28/21 at 8:54 am to
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Saban didn't have anything to do with our 0-8 road record vs UGa and LSU during Gustav's tenure.


Damn that’s bad
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 12/28/21 at 8:59 am to
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I’m no Gus apologist.

You’re kinda being one though.

We all understand Saban was in the state at the same time. Does that make you happy with 8-5, 7-6, 6-5 seasons? Especially after almost a decade of running the program?

What coach would just accept those results and be happy with them? Seems like a loser mentality to say nothing was wrong just because Saban was coaching at Alabama. Have to change something. Gus refused to change clearly.
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 12/28/21 at 9:00 am to
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Saban didn't have anything to do with our 0-8 road record vs UGa and LSU during Gustav's tenure.

Well you could make an argument he does by way of effecting our recruiting.
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 12/28/21 at 9:11 am to
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Well you could make an argument he does by way of effecting our recruiting.



Yes, and that would be a nonsense argument. Once Bama started winning they started recruiting nationally - players that we never would be able to sign regardless. If anything this actually should have opened up "local" recruiting for us even more, because there were local players that Bama just wouldn't/couldn't take because they could go into California or elsewhere and pull a 5-star instead.
Posted by Weagle25
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 12/28/21 at 9:14 am to
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Yes, and that would be a nonsense argument. Once Bama started winning they started recruiting nationally - players that we never would be able to sign regardless. If anything this actually should have opened up "local" recruiting for us even more, because there were local players that Bama just wouldn't/couldn't take because they could go into California or elsewhere and pull a 5-star instead.

Expect that they take nearly all the top Alabama players that we would usually get some of

Not to mention some GA, FL players that we might’ve been able to get
This post was edited on 12/28/21 at 9:15 am
Posted by metafour
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 12/28/21 at 9:18 am to
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Expect that they take nearly all the top Alabama players that we would usually get some of



Look again. In a lot of those years you have Top 10 (if not Top 5 in some cases) players signing with Clemson or even Florida (and others). Not Auburn. But yes, Dan Mullen whipping your arse in your own state boils down to Nick Saban being at Alabama.
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 12/28/21 at 9:33 am to
So your argument is Alabama hasn’t taken any players from In state that we would usually get if Saban wasn’t there?
Posted by wareaglepete
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 12/28/21 at 9:52 am to
With the recruiting classes we did have, should we have been losing to South Carolina, Tennessee, UCF, and to LSU and uga every year?
The Saban thing is an excuse.
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